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    • Forum Rules (Updated 3/22/14)   07/14/10

      Welcome to the Elitist Jerks forums, a WoW discussion forum targeted towards topics regarding high-end raiding and analysis of game mechanics. We ask you to take a few minutes to read the following before making use of these forums.   First, a point of clarification. The name of these forums is not intended ironically; we have high standards for the discussion that occurs herein, and we're quite unapologetic about it. If you feel our rules are stupid or arbitrary, we don't really care. If you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to return to the official Blizzard forums.   Following is a brief listing of our forum rules; note that it is by no means exhaustive, as in our experience people are quite innovative in finding new ways to be stupid. These are simply a set of guidelines to get you started in the right direction. If you follow them, you will generally do fine here; however, if you concoct some creative new form of stupidity, our moderators feel no need to restrain themselves in letting you know. All posters are to make an effort to communicate clearly. In particular, all posts should be made in a reasonable approximation of proper English. We realize that a significant number of you are not native speakers, and we do not expect perfection: merely effort. Please obey basic rules of capitalization and punctuation, avoid chatroom abbreviations ("lol", "imo", "u", and the like), and pay at least minimal attention to sentence and paragraph structure. This includes not starting a new paragraph for each sentence. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible. Do not make multiple consecutive posts; rather, multi-quote and include all your ideas in a single post. Do not quote huge blocks of text to add a short reply; instead, quote only what you need to to make your point. Do not break a single quoted reply into multiple blocks; doing so needlessly lengthens your post without aiding its readability. And don't provide unnecessary backstory: if it isn't relevant to the question you're asking or the point you're making, we don't need to know about it. All discussion should be both polite and civil. Trolling or flaming in any form is forbidden. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are stupid or on drugs and their personal hygiene isn't really relevant to the discussion. Regardless of the merit (or lack thereof) of your argument, it should be made in a way that is neither insulting nor condescending. Whining in any form is forbidden. Blizzard is not incompetent or stupid and they are not intentionally screwing you over and neither is anyone else. If all you're going to do is complain, don't bother posting. Threads should be started if and only if there is some reasonable topic to discuss. If the issue you wish to discuss is covered in an existing thread, use it rather than creating a new one. If you are asking a simple question that you expect to have a simple answer, ask it in one of the "Simple Questions/Simple Answers" threads. But if you feel there is a topic of discussion not well-covered by existing threads, feel free to start a new thread to discuss it. Some sub-forums restrict new members from creating new topics unless they've made at least 10 approved posts, to prevent spamming or bad posts. If you really think it deserves a new thread before you have 10 posts, contact a moderator with your post content. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. Do not bump, quote for truth, cross-post, or post only to say thanks. We don't want to hear your funny story about something that happened in your raid last night, your baseless speculation is unproductive, and your idea for a new ability really isn't that interesting. We don't care what gear you are hoping to get or just received. If you have an idea you'd like to share with the community, support it with analysis, testing, or both that indicates you've put some thought into it. (Note: Posting of a new untested spec falls under this rule, unless you have done the grunt work and have information to support your amazing new spec don't even bother posting it here.) Do not beg for hand-holding. These are forums for discussion and analysis, not for answering any question that you might happen to dream up. Search and read before posting--do not post a question unless you are fairly confident that the answer isn't widely known or easily attainable. In particular, we do not want to take a look at your armory or WWS to tell you what you're doing wrong and we're not interested in making your tough gear or spec decisions for you. We expect you to use the search function and also to read the first post as well as the last 5 pages of the thread you are posting in. Chances are your question has already been answered. Additionally, do not post asking for confirmation of a simulation result. If you think there is a problem with the Sim you are welcome to PM the author. All accounts must have a valid WoW profile. If you no longer play and have deleted all characters you used to have, you may select the "No WoW Account" option; otherwise, this information must be filled out for your main character. If you fail to observe this rule you'll be permanently banned from our forums. We do not permit anonymous posting. Do not sign your posts. People can see who you are from the profile printed to the left of each post, so signing your posts is redundant and simply takes up space. Similarly, you do not need to link your armory in your post, as if people wish to see it they can get it from your profile. Do not respond to terrible posts. Do not respond to a blatantly awful post (a post that is in clear violation of the rules) either in an attempt to moderate them or to answer a question they posed. Your post will just be warned/infracted and removed with the post you are replying to. If you feel that a post is in violation of these rules, please report it and the moderators will deal with it as we feel is appropriate. No Advertising. Do not make posts solely for the purpose of advertising your site/blog/twitch/etc. You may post such things if it's relevant and adds to discussion at hand. If you have information to share, share it here with a link back to your blog or whatever. Do not post "I have information, come to my site to get it". That will result in an immediate infraction and post removal. Also, we will remove any link to a site that violates a games TOS/EULA such as gold selling sites.

      If you violate a forum rule, you will receive an infraction. Most infractions are worth one point, although we reserve the right to give you more at any time if we feel you deserve them. If you accumulate too many infraction points, you will receive an automatic (usually temporary) ban which revokes your posting privileges, as follows: 3 Points - 1 Day 5 Points - 3 Days 8 Points - 1 Week 10 Points - 1 Month 15 Points - Permanent

      Familiarize yourself with The Banhammer, an archive of all infractions given by the moderators here; it will give you some examples of what not to do. Also feel free to take a gander over The Dung Heap, which will give you a good idea of what these forums would look like if we weren't such jerks.   Thank you for joining the discussion!
    • Guide Writer Initiative (Updated 07-21-15)   08/18/13

      As part of our initiative to inspire new and current guide writers, we are now going to be granting those who have a current guide purple color and title to to show our appreciation to those who write and maintain them. This tag also enables HTML posting for easier authoring as well as shared access to editing article based guides as well.   In addition, each class guide accepted and maintained will receives up to $200 for an exclusive guide or 50 for a ported guide, paid via paypal, to the author.   Guide authors help make the site work and we want to show that we recognize and appreciate them.   This of course does not mean every Tom and Harry that posts a "guide". I'm talking well respected community guides that earn EJ its outstanding reputation of quality. No duplicate guides either. We don't need 5 outstanding guides for each spec, just 1.   To submit a guide go to link below and click "add guide" and insert html code into body. You can use http://forums.elitistjerks.com/page/html_editor.htmlto generate html from an already formatted guide, or write from scratch here then generate html. All guides require approval done this way. Once approved the guide will automatically generate a forum discussion thread so you do not need to do both.   Alternatively, just use forum itself and create a thread for review but for this you may have to PM me first if you don't have thread create privileges yet.   Both the HTML and the forum editors are standard WYSIWYG editors. I often encourage people to write the guide in word or another rich text editor with formatting they fancy then paste the guide into WYSIWYG editors here then tweak it as needed. Plus, you want a hard backup of guide on local disk where you can save often. Last thing you want to do is write it completely on here and accidentally click a link or close browser window and lose everything. Make your guide in Word or something first! Any formatting issues that may arise porting guide onto site from your local copy I will be more than happy to help you resolve.   If using HTML conversion tool, then click source and get HTML code version of their guide for the guide submission method. HTML method is sure to keep more of your formatting than the basic WYSIWYG editor in a forum post would allow so keep that in mind if you try doing thread method first and cant' get formatting quite right.   I also encourage use of wowhead tooltips wherever possible. The site automatically does this if you simply just include the full link to spell or item.
      Missing Guides that we need:   Druid:
      Resto   Mage:
      Fire   Monk:
      Mistweaver   Paladin:
      Holy   Priest:
      Holy   Rogue:
      Assassination   Shaman:
      Enhance   Warlock:
      Demonology   Warrior:
    • Site Maintenance (Updated 11-12-15)   10/01/15

      Site has been updated to IPS as of 12 November Known Issues So Far: Old wowhead "item" tags are depricated. They may be re-added to fix some issues with older guides, but for most part it's better to just use the modern wowhead.js which auto parses actual wowhead links automatically into tooltips/names. Just post wowhead links in guides and the js will do the rest. You don't need a special BB code for items. Old article links will be broken do to IPS 4 changing url path to remove some pointless "/_/" directory. The articles are still there and can be found in guides menu. You just may not be able to click links from any threads linking to them without editing out the "/_/" part of url. I'll fix most of this little by little when more important stuff is taken care of. External links/google search results may run into same problem. That will just rely on waiting for google to reindex new paths. After you login, you may be thrown to an error page saying page cannot be found if you logged in from the forum index. Harmless though. Just click "forums" and you'll get forum index since redirect after login is busted. The benefactors bar seems to hang/timeout sometimes.

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  1. Death Knights

    When the Lich King's control of his death knights was broken, his former champions sought revenge for the horrors committed under his command.

  2. Druids

    Druids harness the vast powers of nature to preserve balance and protect life.

  3. Hunters

    From an early age the call of the wild draws some adventurers from the comfort of their homes into the unforgiving primal world outside.

  4. Mages

    Students gifted with a keen intellect and unwavering discipline may walk the path of the mage.

  5. Monks

    Blah, blah...monks hit stuff with their hands.

  6. Paladins

    This is the call of the paladin: to protect the weak, to bring justice to the unjust, and to vanquish evil from the darkest corners of the world.

  7. Priests

    Priests are devoted to the spiritual, and express their unwavering faith by serving the people.

  8. Rogues

    For rogues, the only code is the contract, and their honor is purchased in gold.

  9. Shamans

    Shaman are spiritual guides and practitioners, not of the divine, but of the very elements.

  10. Warlocks

    In the face of demonic power, most heroes see death. Warlocks see only opportunity.

  11. Warriors

    For as long as war has raged, heroes from every race have aimed to master the art of battle.

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