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Mistweaver Healing Compendium

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What about, drop 4/5 t15 for 2/5 t16 and 2/5 t15 until you get 4/5 t16 ??

One more question. Do we still want to use the glyph of mana tea stacks or it's better to drop for expel harm for example? any ideas please?

2+2 is almost certainly better than 4/5 t15.

As for glyphs, I'm currently using Renewing Mists, Surging Mists, and Spinning Crane Kick. Mana Tea glyph no longer increases your mana back per global, and I've not yet run into a fight where I can't fit in an evocate. Glyphless drinking is also much better for if you have alternating phases of heavy damage and low damage - you can focus on throughput when necessary and then quickly get mana back when you get a chance to relax.

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Yeah, double 2pc is absolutely better than 4T15, unless you're in a situation where that 5s on TFT is particularly useful.

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I've noticed that on my Malkorok fights that I am never targeted by Seismic Slam, despite being at range. Other healers are, the ranged dps is, the tanks and melee dps are not. Is this consistent with other mistweavers' experiences? Do we effectively count as a melee role for the targeting of this kind of attack?

That said, I'm consistently targeted for Nazgrim's Heroic Shockwave whenever I'm not in melee range of him (but he may just go for the closest person who's far enough away that the tank won't get caught in the blast, rather than specifically targeting ranged roles, and I'm generally one roll from melee range).

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Albeit it was only one time I was assigned to heal in the Jin'rokh encounter in ToT I did not even once get targeted by Focused Lightning. (I was fistweaving at the time)

My thought there was also either MW counts as melee or it was simply luck.

edit: wording oO

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Mistweavers are considered to be melee specs for purposes of mechanics that exclusively target ranged specs. It's been that way since beta.

Some "ranged-only" mechanics pick their targets based on spec, so Mistweavers will never get targeted regardless of position, while others pick targets based on range, so Mistweavers will get targeted if they're standing at range but not if they're in melee.

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Jumping in with a bit of a twitter conversation about Amp (but then we got sidetracked about haste).

First of all, I realized I may have been missing a mechanics point. When you recast Soothing mid-channel, does it reset your tick timer? Reglitch on twitter said not (he showed me an example implying that works like Mind Flay--starts a new channel without interrupting the ticking). Somehow I'd thought that because of the instant tick at the start of Soothing, it also reset your tick time. If I was wrong, then haste is a little better than I'd thought (possibly not a huge differece though). If I was wrong, I'll have to update my post ( Healing Theory, Part 5: Haste | It's Dangerous to Go Alone ), but my main point today that Amp is good actually gets stronger if haste is better.

Amp: I'm just working heuristically--it gives more effective stats than its ilvl would suggest. If your class has secondary stats that are atrociously bad, that could hurt the value, but even then not by much. Since you don't like mastery, you have very little of it, and a tiny portion of Amp's value is "wasted" on mastery. So the main point is, I know of no reason Amp is worse than expected for MW. Crit's strong for you and you have a lot of it. Spirit and haste are mediocre, but don't have to debate it here, you only have them to the extent you want them. If you want a certain HBP, Amp lets you turn haste into crit through reforging etc.

Basically I don't want to get down into the weeds since it's a very simple trinket. It's all just stats. Suzu (picked arbitrarily for being the post right above mine) has around 35000 secondary stats. 553 Amp would be worth at least ~2450 to him, and in reality closer to 3000 due to the fact that it improves crit from sources other than rating. That compares very favorably to the standard 1959 stats a trinket would have at this ilvl. This isn't conclusive as all the other trinkets have some upsides as well, but the initial question was why Amp is likely to be a very strong trinket (in the context of whether double Amp is a relevant consideration).

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