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I start to build holy power using holy shock as much as possible and crusader strike (if on melee range).

This is probably a good handle to start with corrections: Crusader Strike is an egregious mistake.  Holy Paladin are not DPS-healers.  They are straight healers.  You can spend a GCD on Crusader Strike, or you can spend that same 1.5 seconds casting an actual healing spell which also generates Holy Power.


Holy Shock is likely not the best choice a lot of the time, as well.  Yes, it's an instant heal, but in the 1-1.5 seconds it takes to cast (being a spell the GCD is reduced by Haste) you could get off much of a larger no-instant cast-time heal.


Bottom line, generate your HP through healing.  I expect a real Healadin will have more specific advice.

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I'm sort of confused with the healing strategy for Paladins, I'm a TBC veteran, just started playing again about two months ago. So I'm sort of struggling trying to look for info and re-learning my class. I'm noticing that I'm excessively using Holy Radiance + Eternal Flame + Light of Dawn. I'm casting almost no Holy Lights and No Divine lights whatsoever. Although at first I was having mana problems no I have good enough gear that mana is not such a big issue at the moment, now HPS is. I'm getting beaten in HPS throughput by similarly geared people. I know I'm giving no context and playing style has something to do here but I would like sort of a short healing strategy for max HPS, bellow is a summary of my current strategy for healing.


Beacon tank, get in melee range if the fight is sort of static like Sha of Pride, etc... I start to build holy power using holy shock as much as possible and crusader strike (if on melee range). I start casting Light of Dawn if there is a lot of AOE dmg or cast Eternal Flame on tanks for the HOT or for any spike damage that might occur, sometimes I start to cast eternal flame on everything that I can and I can get my HPS a bump there, in short I'm relying to heavily on my holy power heals. Practically no Holy Lights, no Divine Lights and no Flash of lights whatsoever. Maybe this is the way to go, just feel bit lost. 


Thanks for the time.


Like Exemplar said CS is typically no no, you're not melee hit capped and even though it's a small risk that you'll miss it's still a waste of mana and a gcd. However, using Holy Shock on CD is something you want to do, it's super cheap, short cd and generate your precious Holy Power. Our heals cost more mana than other healers equivalents because we do have our Holy Power, maximizing HP generation and thereby getting "free heals" is a must. 


Regarding playstyle, if you are specced into EF you very very very rarely ever touch Light of Dawn, the only time you would do that is if several people would die unless you heal them now, which honestly never should happen. Your typical "rotation" will be Holy Radiance->Holy Radiance->Holy Shock->Eternal Flame (You want to have 3HP EF's on tank(s) and yourself 100% of the time). If you instead go the route of speccing Selfless Healer you will cast alot of Light of Dawn, and your "rotation" will instead be Judge->Holy Radiance->Holy Shock->Light of Dawn. If you go for EF you want to get your haste to 3506 or 7170 (depending on gear and preference), spirit til comfortable and then mastery. If you instead go for SH you can get rid of all spirit basically and instead just go for mastery>haste. 


A big part of paladin healing regardless of EF/SH is your cooldown usage. You didn't provide any logs so I can't tell if you're already using them wisely, but doing so is key. Try to plan your cd's ahead of time depending on the damage pattern in the fight. 

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I want to thank you all for your replies! This was very helpful! By avoiding wasting gcd on CS and just focusing on healing spells my HPS went from 88khps to 99-108Khps. I feel much more effective now! Thanks a bunch for the tips!

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Is there a list somewhere that lists the BiS for tanks for pre Heroic SoO? I have read in some forums that the 4 piece is best while others have said that the tier bonuses cease to be optimal once you get above a +13 ilvl per gear piece threshhold.

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I was wondering what blessing is better suited if im not in a group. Blessing of Kings or Blessing of Might?

At the moment I favor Blessing of Might but im not sure about the choice

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Sorry, I recently returned from a long hiatus, and feel sort of noobish for asking but searching hasn't found the explaination I seek.

Whats up with the macro changes? I used to use a variety of priority based cast sequence macros similar to this:


#show Avenger's Shield
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,2,3,4,Judgment
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,2,3,Consecration
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,2,Avenger's Shield
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,Crusader Strike
/castsequence reset=0.3 Hammer of Wrath


These macros no longer function as written, is there a way to rewrite these so that they would continue to work. I do not want a strict 1-2-3-4 linear progression macro. This macro would line skip if an item was on cooldown (it also casts from the bottom up)

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Forgive the potentially stupid question.   I've recently come back to tanking, having last tanked seriously in Burning Crusade.  

Is Effective Health (EH) still a legitimate tanking option?  Or has is been overshadowed by secondary stats?  

Thank you! 

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