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SimulationCraft for Hunters

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Great feature, thank you for your good work!

I didn't implement most of it :) But thanks.

-ammo isn't loaded/added to the config file (add a default value?)

Armory doesn't tell you what ammo is equipped, unfortunately. Good catch though that we're using "0" as a default. I'll switch that to use the equivalent of Saronite Razorheads by default.

there is no pet family set (add wolf as default?)

It is set. It's just set in the action list. When it does "summon_pet" there, it'll summon a wolf unless you use a summon_pet option to override that.

the armor penetration on my Boots of the Renewed Flight wasn't read correctly (was missing)

Looks like the parser was looking for "armor penetration" instead of "armor penetration rating". I'll fix that.

Thanks for the feedback. I notice that you figured out that to do a realm with a space in the name, you need to use url-escaping on the space (ie simcraft armory=eu,Der%20Mithrilorden,Lunaera or simcraft armory=eu,Der+Mithrilorden,Lunaera )

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Armory doesn't tell you what ammo is equipped, unfortunately. Good catch though that we're using "0" as a default. I'll switch that to use the equivalent of Saronite Razorheads by default.

It's not shown on the display page, but the XML page source has arrows included as an item with slot="-1".

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Can't get armory import to work. Getting this error:

simcraft armory=us,deathwing,kharthus

@@simcraft: Unknown option/value pair: 'armory' : 'us,deathwing,kharthus'

simcraft: ERROR! Incorrect option format..

Using build 2769.

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Interesting. Apparently the US armory shows pet specs too while the EU armory doesn't. That's something we should take advantage of in the future, but for now I changed the armory parsing code to not blow up because of it. If you try 2772 or later, it should work now.

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Hope this isn't fixed yet: Enchanted Tear (prismatic gem +6 all stats) isn't recognized during armory import.

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The url for the talent spec isn't correct. Mine was talent-calc.xml?c=hunter, but on the WoW site it's talent-calc.xml?cid=3

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The url for the talent spec isn't correct. Mine was talent-calc.xml?c=hunter, but on the WoW site it's talent-calc.xml?cid=3

For those working SVN and living on the ragged edge, this has been fixed in r2775. For everybody else, I should have a new release out Sunday when I return from vacation.

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For those of you who don't mind building from trunk (living on the ragged edge as dedmon puts it), I've added armory pet parsing and it could use some testing. We still only support cats, wolves, raptors, devilsaurs and wind serpents, but if you've got one of those, you can try it with arguments on the form

simcraft "armory=eu,The+Sha'tar,Xavier" summon_pet=Spot

simcraft "armory=eu,The+Sha'tar,Xavier" summon_pet=Bad

(Spot being the name of my cat, Bad the name of my wolf)

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Earlier this month I did some testing on CSS and found out that SimCraft had it doubledip from +%dmg talents/buffs, so I fixed that, but in the same move made it not benefit from anything: No +crit. (r2767)

I fixed it today after someone filed a ticket on the issue, sorry for that. :(

Fixed in r2860, now CS and CSS should have the same crit%, as expected.

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Testing out the armory import, I see that race apparently isn't noted. This matters for racial bonus (e.g. dwarven +1% crit with guns), which would be kinda nice to have for a quick and easy weapon comparison.

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Updated the hunter profiles with epic gems etc, done with latest revision (r3141)

Hunter_T8_07_57_07_HM: imp.HM+glyph bitch, to show the kind of dps loss commited to the buff


SimulationCraft for World of Warcraft build 3.2.0 ( iterations=9999, max_time=300, optimal_raid=1, smooth_rng=0, spell_crit_suppression=0 )


DPS Ranking:

  31136 100.0%  Raid

   8111  26.0%  Hunter_T8_07_57_07

   8031  25.8%  Hunter_T8_01_15_55

   7839  25.2%  Hunter_T8_07_57_07_HM

   7189  23.1%  Hunter_T8_54_12_05


Player=Hunter_T8_54_12_05 (beast_mastery)  DPS=7188.8 (Error=+/-2.3 Range=+/-440)  DPR=38.3  RS=187.6/151.2  (mana)

  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13000974

  Race: night_elf

  Core Stats:  strength=81(10)  agility=1342(1156)  stamina=1063(936)  intellect=417(327)  spirit=107(10)  health=17774  mana=11021

  Spell Stats:  power=0(0)  hit=10.03%(263)  crit=21.16%(691)  penetration=0(0)  haste=4.27%(140)  mp5=0

  Attack Stats  power=5054(3145)  hit=8.02%(263)  crit=29.62%(691)  expertise=0.00%(0)  penetration=31.10%(383)  haste=4.27%(140)

  Defense Stats:  armor=9778(7094)

  Glyphs: bestial_wrath/kill_shot/the_hawk

  Actions:

    arcane_shot    Count= 45.7| 6.5sec  DPE=  3797| 8%  DPET=  2372  DPR=  16.0  pDPS= 579  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2382  Crit= 5382| 6619|47.2%

    kill_shot      Count=  6.0| 9.6sec  DPE= 12244| 3%  DPET=  7556  DPR=  37.0  pDPS= 245  Miss=0.0%  Hit=7662  Crit=17305|20643|47.5%

    multi_shot     Count= 23.2|12.9sec  DPE=  3944| 4%  DPET=  2392  DPR=   9.1  pDPS= 305  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2484  Crit= 5597| 6515|46.9%

    ranged         Count=184.4| 1.6sec  DPE=  3232|28%  DPET=  1993  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=1989  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2151  Crit= 4449| 5467|47.0%

    serpent_sting  Count= 19.2|15.9sec  DPE=  3876| 3%  DPET=  2393  DPR=   9.2  pDPS= 248  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=94  Tick=793

    steady_shot    Count= 90.9| 3.2sec  DPE=  2550|11%  DPET=  1657  DPR=  10.6  pDPS= 774  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1603  Crit= 3620| 4284|46.9%

   wolf  (DPS=3048.3)

    bite           Count=182.3| 1.7sec  DPE=  1594|13%  DPET=   966  DPR=  63.8  pDPS= 970  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 977  Crit= 1990| 4985|60.9%

    melee          Count=389.5| 0.8sec  DPE=  1599|29%  DPET=  2079  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=2079  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1276  Crit= 2551| 4473|31.3%  Glance= 957|24.0%

  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/mark_of_the_wild

  Dynamic Buffs:

    beast_within            : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval=71.1   uptime=29%  benefit=28%

    call_of_the_wild        : start=2.0   refresh=0.0    interval=211.2  uptime= 7%  benefit= 7%

    cobra_strikes           : start=29.4  refresh=10.8   interval=10.0   uptime=30%  benefit=41%  trigger=60%

    dark_matter             : start=6.4   refresh=0.0    interval=49.9   uptime=21%  trigger=15%

    darkmoon_card_greatness : start=7.0   refresh=0.0    interval=46.8   uptime=34%  trigger=35%

  Up-Times:

      3.7% : aspect_of_the_viper           

     99.1% : frenzy                        

     73.7% : furious_howl                  

     51.4% : improved_aspect_of_the_hawk   

      6.3% : rapid_fire                    

    100.0% : replenishment                 

     19.8% : tier8_4pc                     

  Procs:

    161.2 |   1.85sec : judgement_of_wisdom

      4.0 |  71.02sec : tier8_4pc

  Gains:

     6540.6 : blessing_of_wisdom  

    13361.0 : initial_mana        

     7420.6 : invigoration        

    16264.2 : judgement_of_wisdom 

     8002.6 : replenishment       

     1985.9 : viper_aspect_passive

     5078.8 : viper_aspect_shot   


Player=Hunter_T8_07_57_07 (marksmanship)  DPS=8110.7 (Error=+/-3.6 Range=+/-631)  DPR=45.9  RS=176.7/144.3  (mana)

  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13001144

  Race: night_elf

  Core Stats:  strength=81(10)  agility=1587(1340)  stamina=1095(968)  intellect=427(321)  spirit=107(10)  health=18094  mana=11171

  Spell Stats:  power=0(0)  hit=9.15%(240)  crit=24.77%(854)  penetration=0(0)  haste=0.00%(0)  mp5=0

  Attack Stats  power=4611(2447)  hit=7.32%(240)  crit=36.11%(854)  expertise=0.00%(0)  penetration=46.12%(568)  haste=0.00%(0)

  Defense Stats:  armor=9977(6803)

  Glyphs: serpent_sting/steady_shot/chimera_shot

  Actions:

    aimed_shot       Count= 28.4|10.6sec  DPE=  6790| 8%  DPET=  4245  DPR=  23.5  pDPS= 643  Miss=0.0%  Hit=3315  Crit= 8292|11693|69.8%

    chimera_serpent  Count= 32.1| 9.4sec  DPE=  3939| 5%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 422  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2441  Crit= 5033| 5338|57.8%

    chimera_shot     Count= 32.1| 9.4sec  DPE=  7372|10%  DPET=  4617  DPR=  17.1  pDPS= 790  Miss=0.0%  Hit=3977  Crit= 9882|11726|57.5%

    kill_shot        Count=  4.0|16.0sec  DPE= 16650| 3%  DPET= 10353  DPR=  47.1  pDPS= 221  Miss=0.0%  Hit=8953  Crit=22310|28671|57.6%

    piercing_shots   Count=  0.0| 0.0sec  DPE=     1|11%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 911  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=245  Tick=1117

    ranged           Count=150.4| 2.0sec  DPE=  3933|24%  DPET=  1979  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=1974  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2431  Crit= 5037| 6490|57.6%

    serpent_sting    Count=  1.0| 0.0sec  DPE= 92249| 4%  DPET= 55908  DPR= 203.1  pDPS= 308  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=100  Tick=927

    silencing_shot   Count= 16.3|18.7sec  DPE=  2207| 1%  DPET=     1  DPR=   7.3  pDPS= 120  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1224  Crit= 2928| 3747|57.7%

    steady_shot      Count=118.8| 2.4sec  DPE=  3889|19%  DPET=  2394  DPR=  20.6  pDPS=1542  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2031  Crit= 5064| 6425|61.3%

    wild_quiver      Count= 18.1|15.8sec  DPE=  3940| 3%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 238  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2442  Crit= 5035| 5410|57.8%

   wolf  (DPS=942.7)

    bite             Count=182.3| 1.7sec  DPE=   604| 5%  DPET=   366  DPR=  24.2  pDPS= 367  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 482  Crit= 1012| 1868|23.5%  Dodge=0.6%

    melee            Count=250.1| 1.2sec  DPE=   689| 7%  DPET=   575  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 575  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 600  Crit= 1201| 1609|21.3%  Glance= 450|24.0%  Dodge=0.6%

  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/mark_of_the_wild

  Dynamic Buffs:

    call_of_the_wild  : start=1.5   refresh=0.0    interval=300.3  uptime= 4%  benefit= 4%

    dark_matter       : start=6.5   refresh=0.0    interval=49.6   uptime=21%  trigger=15%

    mjolnir_runestone : start=6.5   refresh=0.0    interval=49.6   uptime=21%  trigger=15%

  Up-Times:

      0.0% : aspect_of_the_viper           

     51.3% : furious_howl                  

     46.3% : improved_aspect_of_the_hawk   

     25.1% : improved_steady_shot          

     22.4% : rapid_fire                    

    100.0% : replenishment                 

  Procs:

    199.4 |   1.62sec : judgement_of_wisdom

     18.1 |  15.76sec : wild_quiver

  Gains:

     6391.0 : blessing_of_wisdom    (overflow=2.3%)

    13601.0 : initial_mana        

    19824.9 : judgement_of_wisdom   (overflow=1.5%)

     9053.2 : rapid_recuperation    (overflow=16.8%)

     7976.9 : replenishment         (overflow=2.1%)

        0.5 : viper_aspect_passive

        1.2 : viper_aspect_shot   


Player=Hunter_T8_07_57_07_HM (marksmanship)  DPS=7839.0 (Error=+/-3.5 Range=+/-756)  DPR=44.4  RS=176.7/144.3  (mana)

  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13630091

  Race: night_elf

  Core Stats:  strength=81(10)  agility=1576(1330)  stamina=1095(968)  intellect=427(321)  spirit=107(10)  health=18094  mana=11171

  Spell Stats:  power=0(0)  hit=9.91%(260)  crit=24.55%(844)  penetration=0(0)  haste=0.00%(0)  mp5=0

  Attack Stats  power=4600(2447)  hit=7.93%(260)  crit=35.76%(844)  expertise=0.00%(0)  penetration=46.12%(568)  haste=0.00%(0)

  Defense Stats:  armor=9955(6803)

  Glyphs: serpent_sting/chimera_shot/hunters_mark

  Actions:

    aimed_shot       Count= 28.4|10.6sec  DPE=  6363| 8%  DPET=  3979  DPR=  22.0  pDPS= 603  Miss=0.1%  Hit=3313  Crit= 8289|11682|61.4%

    chimera_serpent  Count= 32.1| 9.4sec  DPE=  3929| 5%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 421  Miss=0.1%  Hit=2439  Crit= 5029| 5334|57.6%

    chimera_shot     Count= 32.1| 9.4sec  DPE=  7351|10%  DPET=  4604  DPR=  17.1  pDPS= 788  Miss=0.1%  Hit=3972  Crit= 9871|11713|57.3%

    kill_shot        Count=  4.0|16.0sec  DPE= 16644| 3%  DPET= 10349  DPR=  47.1  pDPS= 221  Miss=0.1%  Hit=8946  Crit=22286|28639|57.8%

    piercing_shots   Count=  0.0| 0.0sec  DPE=     1|11%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 839  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=245  Tick=1027

    ranged           Count=150.4| 2.0sec  DPE=  3915|25%  DPET=  1970  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=1965  Miss=0.1%  Hit=2429  Crit= 5031| 6483|57.2%

    serpent_sting    Count=  1.0|154.9sec  DPE= 91537| 4%  DPET= 55490  DPR= 201.6  pDPS= 308  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=100  Tick=926

    silencing_shot   Count= 16.3|18.7sec  DPE=  2197| 2%  DPET=     1  DPR=   7.3  pDPS= 119  Miss=0.1%  Hit=1222  Crit= 2926| 3743|57.2%

    steady_shot      Count=118.8| 2.4sec  DPE=  3520|18%  DPET=  2167  DPR=  18.6  pDPS=1395  Miss=0.1%  Hit=1845  Crit= 4600| 5837|60.8%

    wild_quiver      Count= 18.0|15.8sec  DPE=  3928| 3%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 236  Miss=0.1%  Hit=2440  Crit= 5030| 5404|57.5%

   wolf  (DPS=945.9)

    bite             Count=182.3| 1.7sec  DPE=   606| 5%  DPET=   367  DPR=  24.3  pDPS= 369  Miss=0.1%  Hit= 482  Crit= 1012| 1867|23.6%  Dodge=0.1%

    melee            Count=250.1| 1.2sec  DPE=   691| 7%  DPET=   577  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 577  Miss=0.1%  Hit= 600  Crit= 1200| 1608|21.3%  Glance= 450|24.0%  Dodge=0.1%

  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/mark_of_the_wild

  Dynamic Buffs:

    call_of_the_wild  : start=1.5   refresh=0.0    interval=300.3  uptime= 4%  benefit= 4%

    dark_matter       : start=6.5   refresh=0.0    interval=49.6   uptime=21%  trigger=15%

    mjolnir_runestone : start=6.5   refresh=0.0    interval=49.6   uptime=21%  trigger=15%

  Up-Times:

      0.0% : aspect_of_the_viper           

     51.3% : furious_howl                  

     46.3% : improved_aspect_of_the_hawk   

     25.0% : improved_steady_shot          

     22.4% : rapid_fire                    

    100.0% : replenishment                 

  Procs:

    199.2 |   1.62sec : judgement_of_wisdom

     18.0 |  15.84sec : wild_quiver

  Gains:

     6391.6 : blessing_of_wisdom    (overflow=2.3%)

    13601.0 : initial_mana        

    19813.6 : judgement_of_wisdom   (overflow=1.5%)

     9057.2 : rapid_recuperation    (overflow=16.8%)

     7978.0 : replenishment         (overflow=2.1%)

        0.3 : viper_aspect_passive

        1.0 : viper_aspect_shot   


Player=Hunter_T8_01_15_55 (survival)  DPS=8031.3 (Error=+/-2.9 Range=+/-545)  DPR=43.2  RS=185.8/164.9  (mana)

  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13001196

  Race: night_elf

  Core Stats:  strength=81(10)  agility=1907(1456)  stamina=1169(936)  intellect=417(327)  spirit=107(10)  health=18834  mana=11021

  Spell Stats:  power=0(0)  hit=9.80%(257)  crit=21.16%(691)  penetration=0(0)  haste=4.27%(140)  mp5=0

  Attack Stats  power=5450(2625)  hit=7.84%(257)  crit=36.40%(691)  expertise=0.00%(0)  penetration=31.10%(383)  haste=4.27%(140)

  Defense Stats:  armor=10908(7094)

  Glyphs: kill_shot/serpent_sting/explosive_shot

  Actions:

    aimed_shot      Count= 23.4|12.8sec  DPE=  5717| 6%  DPET=  3488  DPR=  14.2  pDPS= 447  Miss=0.1%  Hit=2990  Crit= 7137| 8143|65.9%

    black_arrow     Count= 12.0|25.8sec  DPE=  6386| 3%  DPET=  3889  DPR=  21.1  pDPS= 256  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=59  Tick=1300

    explosive_shot  Count= 52.8| 5.7sec  DPE= 15265|33%  DPET=  9537  DPR=  57.3  pDPS=2687  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=157  Tick=2527  CritTick=6039|7176|73.7%

    kill_shot       Count=  6.0| 9.7sec  DPE= 18957| 5%  DPET= 11640  DPR=  53.7  pDPS= 379  Miss=0.2%  Hit=8922  Crit=21298|25447|81.2%

    ranged          Count=141.3| 2.1sec  DPE=  4130|24%  DPET=  1951  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=1947  Miss=0.2%  Hit=2430  Crit= 5027| 5905|65.6%

    serpent_sting   Count= 13.7|22.6sec  DPE=  5700| 3%  DPET=  3490  DPR=  12.6  pDPS= 260  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=91  Tick=853

    steady_shot     Count= 76.2| 3.8sec  DPE=  3625|11%  DPET=  2194  DPR=  14.4  pDPS= 921  Miss=0.2%  Hit=1859  Crit= 4432| 5026|68.7%

   wolf  (DPS=1135.7)

    bite            Count=182.3| 1.7sec  DPE=   689| 5%  DPET=   418  DPR=  27.6  pDPS= 419  Miss=0.2%  Hit= 570  Crit= 1140| 2059|21.2%  Dodge=0.1%

    melee           Count=250.1| 1.2sec  DPE=   858| 9%  DPET=   717  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 716  Miss=0.2%  Hit= 746  Crit= 1491| 2071|21.3%  Glance= 559|24.0%  Dodge=0.1%

  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/mark_of_the_wild

  Dynamic Buffs:

    call_of_the_wild        : start=1.5   refresh=0.0    interval=300.3  uptime= 4%  benefit= 4%

    dark_matter             : start=6.7   refresh=0.0    interval=48.8   uptime=22%  trigger=15%

    darkmoon_card_greatness : start=7.0   refresh=0.0    interval=46.4   uptime=35%  trigger=35%

  Up-Times:

      0.0% : aspect_of_the_viper           

     99.0% : expose_weakness               

     51.2% : furious_howl                  

     42.7% : improved_aspect_of_the_hawk   

     71.5% : master_tactician              

      5.9% : rapid_fire                    

    100.0% : replenishment                 

     18.7% : tier8_4pc                     

  Procs:

    263.8 |   1.20sec : judgement_of_wisdom

      4.4 |  59.55sec : lock_and_load

      3.7 |  74.07sec : tier8_4pc

  Gains:

     6504.3 : blessing_of_wisdom    

    13361.0 : initial_mana          

    26479.6 : judgement_of_wisdom   

     7962.1 : replenishment         

        0.0 : spirit_intellect_regen

     8461.5 : thrill_of_the_hunt    

        0.4 : viper_aspect_passive  

        1.5 : viper_aspect_shot     


Auras and De-Buffs:

  Constant: blood_frenzy/earth_and_moon/faerie_fire/improved_faerie_fire/improved_moonkin/improved_scorch/improved_shadow_bolt/mangle/moonkin/rampage

  Constant: trauma/winters_chill

  Dynamic:


Waiting:

     0.0% : Hunter_T8_54_12_05


Baseline Performance:

  TotalEvents   = 72659207

  MaxEventQueue = 69

  TargetHealth  = 9338230

  SimSeconds    = 2999938

  CpuSeconds    = 133.016

  SpeedUp       = 22553


RNG global Actual/Expected Roll=1.000152 Range=1.000000 Gauss=1.000000


Hunter_T8_01_15_55 (Suvival)
#!simcraft


hunter=Hunter_T8_01_15_55

origin=http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13001196

level=80

race=night_elf

talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=3&tal=100000000000000000000000000053051010000000000000000005000032500033330532135301311

glyphs=kill_shot/serpent_sting/explosive_shot

actions=flask,type=endless_rage

actions+=/food,type=blackened_dragonfin

actions+=/hunters_mark

actions+=/summon_pet

actions+=/auto_shot

actions+=/aspect

actions+=/rapid_fire

actions+=/kill_shot

actions+=/kill_command

actions+=/explosive_shot

actions+=/black_arrow

actions+=/serpent_sting

actions+=/aimed_shot

actions+=/steady_shot

head=conquerors_scourgestalker_headpiece,stats=1067armor_196ap_59crit_50arpen_82agi_81sta_49int,gems=relentless_earthsiege_20agi_16ap,enchant=50ap_20crit

neck=pendulum_of_infinity,stats=86ap_48crit_41haste_64agi_70sta,gems=10agi_15sta_4agi

shoulders=conquerors_scourgestalker_spaulders,stats=985armor_138ap_43hit_51haste_65agi_50sta_44int,gems=20agi_4haste,enchant=40ap_15crit

chest=conquerors_scourgestalker_tunic,stats=1314armor_194ap_57hit_59crit_86agi_65sta_60int,gems=20agi_20agi,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi

waist=belt_of_the_betrayed,stats=739armor_170ap_44crit_56arpen_57agi_67sta_43int,gems=20agi

legs=legguards_of_cunning_deception,stats=533armor_152ap_78crit_66arpen_112agi_127sta,gems=20agi_20agi_20agi,enchant=75ap_22crit

feet=boots_of_the_renewed_flight,stats=903armor_122ap_50crit_37arpen_88agi_60sta_44int,gems=16agi,enchant=12crit_12hit

wrists=frostbound_chain_bracers,stats=575armor_126ap_33hit_36crit_46agi_49sta_33int,gems=20agi,enchant=130ap

hands=conquerors_scourgestalker_handguards,stats=821armor_170ap_43hit_44haste_49agi_66sta_44int,gems=20agi_4agi,enchant=44ap

finger1=band_of_lights,stats=98ap_46hit_31arpen_57agi_39sta,gems=20agi_4agi,enchant=40ap

finger2=branns_signet_ring,stats=96ap_43crit_33arpen_64agi_61sta,gems=20agi,enchant=40ap

trinket1=dark_matter,stats=222ap,equip=onattackhit_612crit_15%_10dur_45cd

trinket2=darkmoon_card_greatness,stats=90agi

back=drape_of_the_faceless_general,stats=157armor_92ap_40crit_30arpen_69agi_31sta,gems=20agi_10crit_10agi_6agi,enchant=22agi

main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,stats=160ap_87crit_80arpen_120agi_105sta,enchant=110ap,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

ranged=skyforge_crossbow,stats=58ap_23hit_28crit_40agi_40sta,enchant=40crit,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

# Gear Summary

# gear_strength=10

# gear_agility=1456

# gear_stamina=936

# gear_intellect=327

# gear_spirit=10

# gear_attack_power=2625

# gear_armor_penetration_rating=383

# gear_hit_rating=257

# gear_crit_rating=691

# gear_haste_rating=140

# gear_armor=7094

# meta_gem=relentless_earthsiege

# tier8_2pc=1

# tier8_4pc=1

# trinket2=darkmoon_card_greatness

# main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

# ranged=skyforge_crossbow,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

ammo_dps=67.50

Hunter_T8_07_57_07 (Marksman)
#!simcraft


hunter=Hunter_T8_07_57_07

origin=http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13001144

level=80

race=night_elf

talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=3&tal=502000000000000000000000000153051012300132331352313515000002

glyphs=serpent_sting/steady_shot/chimera_shot

actions=flask,type=endless_rage

actions+=/food,type=blackened_dragonfin

actions+=/hunters_mark

actions+=/summon_pet

actions+=/trueshot_aura

actions+=/auto_shot

actions+=/aspect

actions+=/serpent_sting

actions+=/rapid_fire

actions+=/kill_command

actions+=/silencing_shot

actions+=/chimera_shot

actions+=/kill_shot

actions+=/aimed_shot

actions+=/readiness,wait_for_rapid_fire=1

actions+=/steady_shot

head=conquerors_scourgestalker_headpiece,stats=1067armor_196ap_59crit_50arpen_82agi_81sta_49int,gems=relentless_earthsiege_20arpen_16ap,enchant=50ap_20crit

neck=broach_of_the_wailing_night,stats=84ap_36crit_46arpen_63agi_69sta

shoulders=mantle_of_fiery_vengeance,stats=985armor_108ap_56crit_41arpen_57agi_63sta_65int,gems=20arpen,enchant=40ap_15crit

chest=conquerors_scourgestalker_tunic,stats=1314armor_194ap_57hit_59crit_86agi_65sta_60int,gems=20agi_10agi_15sta_6hit,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi

waist=belt_of_the_betrayed,stats=739armor_170ap_44crit_56arpen_57agi_67sta_43int,gems=20agi

legs=legguards_of_cunning_deception,stats=533armor_152ap_78crit_66arpen_112agi_127sta,gems=20agi_20agi_20agi,enchant=75ap_22crit

feet=boots_of_living_scale,stats=903armor_138ap_48crit_45arpen_48agi_66sta_45int,gems=20agi_20agi,enchant=12crit_12hit

wrists=fluxing_energy_coils,stats=259armor_72ap_46hit_30arpen_63agi_54sta,gems=20agi,enchant=130ap

hands=gloves_of_the_steady_hand,stats=846armor_106ap_50hit_55crit_79agi_75sta_49int,gems=20agi_20agi,enchant=20agi

finger1=band_of_lights,stats=98ap_46hit_31arpen_57agi_39sta,gems=20agi_4agi,enchant=40ap

finger2=branns_signet_ring,stats=96ap_43crit_33arpen_64agi_61sta,gems=20agi,enchant=40ap

trinket1=dark_matter,stats=222ap,equip=onattackhit_612crit_15%_10dur_45cd

trinket2=mjolnir_runestone,stats=102crit,equip=onattackhit_665arpen_15%_10dur_45cd

back=drape_of_the_faceless_general,stats=157armor_92ap_40crit_30arpen_69agi_31sta,gems=20arpen_10crit_10agi_6agi,enchant=22agi

main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,stats=160ap_87crit_80arpen_120agi_105sta,enchant=110ap,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

ranged=skyforge_crossbow,stats=58ap_23hit_28crit_40agi_40sta,enchant=40crit,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

# Gear Summary

# gear_strength=10

# gear_agility=1340

# gear_stamina=968

# gear_intellect=321

# gear_spirit=10

# gear_attack_power=2447

# gear_armor_penetration_rating=568

# gear_hit_rating=240

# gear_crit_rating=854

# gear_armor=6803

# meta_gem=relentless_earthsiege

# tier8_2pc=1

# main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

# ranged=skyforge_crossbow,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

ammo_dps=67.50

Hunter_T8_07_57_07_HM (Marksman, impHM+glyph bitch)
#!simcraft


hunter=Hunter_T8_07_57_07_HM

origin=http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13630091

level=80

race=night_elf

talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=3&tal=502000000000000000000000000053351012300132331152313515000002

glyphs=serpent_sting/chimera_shot/hunters_mark

actions=flask,type=endless_rage

actions+=/food,type=blackened_dragonfin

actions+=/hunters_mark

actions+=/summon_pet

actions+=/trueshot_aura

actions+=/auto_shot

actions+=/aspect

actions+=/serpent_sting

actions+=/rapid_fire

actions+=/kill_command

actions+=/silencing_shot

actions+=/chimera_shot

actions+=/kill_shot

actions+=/aimed_shot

actions+=/readiness,wait_for_rapid_fire=1

actions+=/steady_shot

head=conquerors_scourgestalker_headpiece,stats=1067armor_196ap_59crit_50arpen_82agi_81sta_49int,gems=relentless_earthsiege_20arpen_16ap,enchant=50ap_20crit

neck=broach_of_the_wailing_night,stats=84ap_36crit_46arpen_63agi_69sta

shoulders=mantle_of_fiery_vengeance,stats=985armor_108ap_56crit_41arpen_57agi_63sta_65int,gems=20arpen,enchant=40ap_15crit

chest=conquerors_scourgestalker_tunic,stats=1314armor_194ap_57hit_59crit_86agi_65sta_60int,gems=20agi_10agi_15sta_6hit,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi

waist=belt_of_the_betrayed,stats=739armor_170ap_44crit_56arpen_57agi_67sta_43int,gems=20agi

legs=legguards_of_cunning_deception,stats=533armor_152ap_78crit_66arpen_112agi_127sta,gems=20agi_20agi_20agi,enchant=75ap_22crit

feet=boots_of_living_scale,stats=903armor_138ap_48crit_45arpen_48agi_66sta_45int,gems=20agi_20agi,enchant=12crit_12hit

wrists=fluxing_energy_coils,stats=259armor_72ap_46hit_30arpen_63agi_54sta,gems=20agi,enchant=130ap

hands=gloves_of_the_steady_hand,stats=846armor_106ap_50hit_55crit_79agi_75sta_49int,gems=20agi_20agi,enchant=20agi

finger1=band_of_lights,stats=98ap_46hit_31arpen_57agi_39sta,gems=20agi_4agi,enchant=40ap

finger2=branns_signet_ring,stats=96ap_43crit_33arpen_64agi_61sta,gems=20agi,enchant=40ap

trinket1=dark_matter,stats=222ap,equip=onattackhit_612crit_15%_10dur_45cd

trinket2=mjolnir_runestone,stats=102crit,equip=onattackhit_665arpen_15%_10dur_45cd

back=drape_of_the_faceless_general,stats=157armor_92ap_40crit_30arpen_69agi_31sta,gems=20arpen_20hit_6agi,enchant=22agi

main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,stats=160ap_87crit_80arpen_120agi_105sta,enchant=110ap,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

ranged=skyforge_crossbow,stats=58ap_23hit_28crit_40agi_40sta,enchant=40crit,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

# Gear Summary

# gear_strength=10

# gear_agility=1330

# gear_stamina=968

# gear_intellect=321

# gear_spirit=10

# gear_attack_power=2447

# gear_armor_penetration_rating=568

# gear_hit_rating=260

# gear_crit_rating=844

# gear_armor=6803

# meta_gem=relentless_earthsiege

# tier8_2pc=1

# main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

# ranged=skyforge_crossbow,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

ammo_dps=67.50

Hunter_T8_54_12_05 (Beastmaster)
#!simcraft


hunter=Hunter_T8_54_12_05

origin=http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=13000974

level=80

race=night_elf

talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=3&tal=512002015051122431015313510053031000000000000000000005

glyphs=bestial_wrath/kill_shot/the_hawk

actions=flask,type=endless_rage

actions+=/food,type=blackened_dragonfin

actions+=/hunters_mark

actions+=/summon_pet

actions+=/auto_shot

actions+=/kill_command,sync=bestial_wrath

actions+=/bestial_wrath

actions+=/aspect

actions+=/rapid_fire

actions+=/kill_shot

actions+=/serpent_sting

actions+=/arcane_shot

actions+=/multi_shot

actions+=/steady_shot

head=conquerors_scourgestalker_headpiece,stats=1067armor_196ap_59crit_50arpen_82agi_81sta_49int,gems=relentless_earthsiege_40ap_16ap,enchant=50ap_20crit

neck=pendulum_of_infinity,stats=86ap_48crit_41haste_64agi_70sta,gems=40ap

shoulders=conquerors_scourgestalker_spaulders,stats=985armor_138ap_43hit_51haste_65agi_50sta_44int,gems=40ap_4haste,enchant=40ap_15crit

chest=conquerors_scourgestalker_tunic,stats=1314armor_194ap_57hit_59crit_86agi_65sta_60int,gems=40ap_20ap_15sta_6hit,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi

waist=belt_of_the_betrayed,stats=739armor_170ap_44crit_56arpen_57agi_67sta_43int,gems=40ap

legs=legguards_of_cunning_deception,stats=533armor_152ap_78crit_66arpen_112agi_127sta,gems=40ap_40ap_40ap,enchant=75ap_22crit

feet=boots_of_the_renewed_flight,stats=903armor_122ap_50crit_37arpen_88agi_60sta_44int,enchant=12crit_12hit

wrists=frostbound_chain_bracers,stats=575armor_126ap_33hit_36crit_46agi_49sta_33int,enchant=130ap

hands=conquerors_scourgestalker_handguards,stats=821armor_170ap_43hit_44haste_49agi_66sta_44int,gems=40ap_4agi,enchant=44ap

finger1=band_of_lights,stats=98ap_46hit_31arpen_57agi_39sta,gems=40ap_4agi,enchant=40ap

finger2=branns_signet_ring,stats=96ap_43crit_33arpen_64agi_61sta,gems=40ap,enchant=40ap

trinket1=dark_matter,stats=222ap,equip=onattackhit_612crit_15%_10dur_45cd

trinket2=darkmoon_card_greatness,stats=90agi

back=drape_of_the_faceless_general,stats=157armor_92ap_40crit_30arpen_69agi_31sta,gems=40ap_20ap_10crit_6agi,enchant=22agi

main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,stats=160ap_87crit_80arpen_120agi_105sta,enchant=110ap,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

ranged=skyforge_crossbow,stats=58ap_23hit_28crit_40agi_40sta,enchant=40crit,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

# Gear Summary

# gear_strength=10

# gear_agility=1156

# gear_stamina=936

# gear_intellect=327

# gear_spirit=10

# gear_attack_power=3145

# gear_armor_penetration_rating=383

# gear_hit_rating=263

# gear_crit_rating=691

# gear_haste_rating=140

# gear_armor=7094

# meta_gem=relentless_earthsiege

# tier8_2pc=1

# tier8_4pc=1

# trinket2=darkmoon_card_greatness

# main_hand=lotrafen_spear_of_the_damned,weapon=polearm_3.40speed_232.5dps

# ranged=skyforge_crossbow,weapon=crossbow_2.80speed_200.4dps

ammo_dps=67.50

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Thanks for your work. I just have two advices regarding the Hunter's Mark spec:

1. It should be better to change chimera shot glyph for hunter's mark (if you really want the glyph at all).

2. It' better to take points out of Improved Steady Shot and maybe one from Rapid Recuperation than to take them from Improved Barrage to skill Improved Hunter's Mark.

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I hate to bump this thread after so little recent interaction with it; however, I've come to a slight dilemma.

The dilemma being that with 3 different ways to compare gear/dps, it's hard to gauge which is the best. Simulationcraft has SV coming out on top while the spreadsheet/web app have MM coming out on top.

In addition to this, different sets of gear bring out different comparisons (i.e. spreadsheet has helm #1 > helm #2 while simulationcraft has helm #2 > helm #1).

I guess the best way to test is to do manual tests on a training dummy and go with real world results rather than tools. But, when building a gear set for the future, one doesn't have access to the gear to test it themselves =/.

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I'm inclined to believe that if both tools show believable results but disagree, then the difference is smaller than what you'll be able to notice in practice.

Any number of differences in modelling (e.g. lag) will cause discrepancies. Of course, it would be interesting to hunt down modelling differences. Personally I don't have access to Excel, making that rather hard.

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I think there are some inaccuracies in the MM model. I've been hoping to spend some time on it and get it in-sync with 3.2.2 before 3.3 comes out. Among other things, it doesn't seem to have weapon damage calculated correctly, which impacts a number of other calculations (which have a bigger impact on MM than SV). MM definitely is low in simulationcraft right now.

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I fixed a bug that caused chimera-serpent to get the partial resists reduction twice, but after I fixed that I got very similar numbers in the sim and in-game. (Very anecdotal, I only tried one gear set, but I did it without proc trinkets and with a low level gun with low damage range.)

As I said, I don't have access to Excel, but I compared to the numbers on femaledwarf.com and noticed that simc's chimera damage is still lower. I have no idea if that means simc's damage is too low or if femaledwarf's is too high. I also don't know how femaledwarf.com treats partial resists. :)

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The scaling of weapon damage is pretty similar between femaledwarf and Simulationcraft (around 8DPS per 1 weapon DPS for me) but the haste scaling is still way off in Simulationcraft (1.4DPS in Simulationcraft vs. 0.7 DPS at femaledwarf).

Has anyone seen similar results or clues to the cause of this?

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Haste scaling differences can be anything from lag modeling to size of the delta to whether you use a positive or negative delta...

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The scaling of weapon damage is pretty similar between femaledwarf and Simulationcraft (around 8DPS per 1 weapon DPS for me) but the haste scaling is still way off in Simulationcraft (1.4DPS in Simulationcraft vs. 0.7 DPS at femaledwarf).

Has anyone seen similar results or clues to the cause of this?

Using femaledwarf, you can play around with your time-to-wait (for CD on a higher damage shot instead of steady) and latency to get widely varying values for haste. I believe default is 0.8 @ 150ms. I've seen the odd cases where femaledwarf even suggests haste over agility depending on your settings, at which point I just readjust my time-to-wait.

I'm not entirely sure how SimCraft handles that.

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Reproducing a bit of PM conversation we've been having, since Deadmon pointed it out it would be useful to have in public:

I'm afraid the docs are sparse.... and the action conditionals are rather new.

cooldown.chimera_shot.remaining>=7 should work

debuff.something.remaining>=number

buff.something.remaining>=number

dot.name.ticking

dot.name.remaining>=number

However..... We do not model the aimed shot debuff at the moment. And we do not have a "previous spell" function available for conditionals either.

Feel free to ask these questions in the SimulationCraft for Hunters thread. I'd love to breathe some life into it and hopefully improve the Hunter module for you guys.

Now, I did try the quoted conditional for chimera shot, by entering the following actions list:

actions+=/serpent_sting

actions+=/rapid_fire

actions+=/kill_shot

actions+=/kill_command

actions+=/silencing_shot

actions+=/chimera_shot

actions+=/steady_shot,cooldown.chimera_shot.remaining>=7

actions+=/aimed_shot

actions+=/readiness,wait_for_rapid_fire=1

actions+=/steady_shot

I would think that when it hits the first steady shot action, it would fire it for the first 2 gcds after using a chimera, then stop using it since chimera's cooldown would then be less than 7s, at which point it would do an aimed instead, then more steadies until it can fire chimera again. However what actually seems to happen is that it never stops firing steadyshots, and 0 aimed shots get fired :/

I also tried taking out the first steady_shot action and just putting a condition on aimed shot for chimera_shot's cooldown being <7, but the parser likes that even less (likely something about the syntax I'm failing to understand).

edit: In fact, the parser just seems to refuse conditions on aimed_shot: I can stick a "cooldown.chimera_shot.remaining>=7" on a steady_shot action without any complaints (although the sim result isn't what I expect), but if I try the same cooldown condition on an aimed_shot line, I get parse errors such as:

aimed_shot: Unexpected parameter 'cooldown.chimera_shot.remaining>'.

Fafhrd aimed_shot: Unable to parse options str 'cooldown.chimera_shot.remaining>=7'.

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Try:

actions+=steady_shot,if=cooldown.chimera_shot.remains<=7

I should have looked at the code instead of responding from memory.

Key differences:

The "option" to the action is "if" which takes an expression, ie: if=((A<B)|(C>D)|!E)

The notation for dot/buff/debuff/cooldown time remaining is ".remains" and not ".remaining"

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Thanks!

I'd tried it with the =if before, but was still getting the parse error, since the "remains" bit was still wrong.

I still couldn't get a condition on the extra steadyshot line to do what I wanted (adding a "actions+=steady_shot,if=cooldown.chimera_shot.remains>=7" after the chimera_shot action somehow results in no steadies, aims, OR chimeras firing at all, very strange) however putting a condition on aimed shot seems to do what I want:

actions+=/food,type=fish_feast

actions+=/hunters_mark

actions+=/summon_pet

actions+=/trueshot_aura

actions+=/auto_shot

actions+=/snapshot_stats

actions+=/use_item,name=gloves_of_the_silver_assassin

actions+=/aspect

actions+=/kill_shot

actions+=/serpent_sting

actions+=/rapid_fire

actions+=/kill_command

actions+=/silencing_shot

actions+=/chimera_shot

actions+=/aimed_shot,if=cooldown.chimera_shot.remains<=7

actions+=/readiness,wait_for_rapid_fire=1

actions+=/steady_shot

Results in a loss of 15 DPS over the normal sequence, going from 10131dps with no condition to 10115dps with the conditional aimed shot. I see aimed shot's Damage Per Execute going up in the latter run, presumably because of the extra IIS procs it's getting, and Chimera's DPE going down, however the average number of aimed shots fired is going down slightly as well, and the number of steady shots fired is going up slightly - presumably because on the first time through the sequence you delay the first aimed shot.

So if this is right, although the splitting into a 2xSteady-1xSpecial system does seem to increase the average damage of the specials, it's not worth it (at least in my gear) unless you have a much longer fight, or can work into the offset cooldowns without losing any shots you'd have lost anyway.

I think there's also a debug option to get SimCraft to print out the list of actions it's performing, going to try to enable that to confirm it's actually doing the shots as I think it is.

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