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DeeNogger

Increasing raid DPS via uncommon 'support builds'

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From the rogue perspective, if they're looking at ~1k unbuffed and have a 2.8 or slower mainhand weapon, having them go hemo won't hurt raid DPS. It probably won't help it much, but it won't hurt you either, and that rogue will have some nice tricks for other situations (double evasion on Razuvious, CP generation for stunlocks is improved, Prep, Ghostly Strike and some other avoidance tanking talents such that they make a better offtank if required, etc.).

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so other than TSA hunters, basically everyone is saying that its not work using feral/moon/shadow/hemo ?

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so other than TSA hunters, basically everyone is saying that its not work using feral/moon/shadow/hemo ?

Other than that TSA isn't an offspec or "support" build, yes.

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When you get to the point (Start of naxx i guess) that your rogues are geared enough to hit 2k AP without consumables, speccing Hemo will give comparable damage to a Combat swords build, and won't be too much under a combat daggers build. We have a very melee heavy raid setup, and the added damage is certainley noticable over a long fight. I wouldn't recommend Hemo to guilds doing MC/BWL or even AQ, but to those with a couple of bosses down in Naxx, looking to up their DPS a little, I'd say go for it.

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Anyways just felt like adding that. Some people seem to have some really interesting hunter misconceptions.

Given the struggles that hunters and warlocks are having making it into raid composition for Naxx I'd say the real hunter dps problems have only just started - i.e. they weren't such an issue in BWL/AQ. I wouldn't say it's a misconception just info that's only become an issue in the last couple of months.

It's safe to say Blizz have realised this given the lack of any hunter talent info for TBC.

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not to help in the derailing of my own thread, but i would say the biggest problem with hunter dps is the fact that hunters are locked into using a very specific weapon because of their shot cycle (the nature of the dps set up). having hunters saying that a chromag dropped weapon is the best thing to hope for is... pretty awful considering how often other dps classes upgrade their weapons.

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