I thought orcs would be the better choice for BM do to the fact that they have the pet bonus?
We did have a brief period of time where an Orc profile was up (less than 8 hours). After that, a better profile was created with the Troll. These profiles are generally very close, but we haven't been able to find an Orc profile that beats the current Troll one. If you do find one, please post it. I love exploring new character profiles.
I'm still curious as to why Talisman of Bloodlust is currently not recommended as one of the two BiS hunter trinkets. I'm currently 9/13 heroic experienced and possess a thunderforged normal version.
Now, I have a feeling these hunters were using either an LFR version which might have had a reduced RPPM chance or were flat out wrong. I average 2-3 stacks and routinely get 5 stacks numerous times throughout a fight. Considering that a portion of Renataki's trinket will always be wasted because in BiS gear you will be over the expertise cap significantly, I wonder why a trinket with a solid amount of static agility and with a strong proc of our best secondary stat is valued so far below two agility proc trinkets. I can understand for SV considering Explosive shot for whatever inane reason doesn't proc Talisman and also agility procs are great for the snapshot nature of Black Arrow, but I was hoping that Effin you might be able to convince me with your wisdom as to why I should favor the other two trinkets if I have access to all at a heroic t-forged level.
The current BiS profile has 137 expertise over the cap, but I have not been able to find a profile that favors Talisman. That being said, the truth of the matter is that the trinket proc rates are wildly erratic in game, and the simulators are doing the best they can to find a middle ground. It's not a perfect predictor of in-game performance everytime, though. I've seen people speccing mastery > crit > haste get 50% uptime on Renataki's on fights like Jin'rokh--obviously a very lucky proc rate--and that happens. Specializing in haste > crit > mastery is a good strategy toward maximizing the number of high proc rate fights you experience in a raid night, and the ultimate goal of RPPM is to try to maximize the best procs, which is why Renataki is performing so well right now (that's a lot of agility).
I could offer anecdotal evidence concerning Talisman of Bloodlust, Rune of Reorigination, Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault, Bad Juju and Renataki's (I've experimented with all five at 522-528 since the release of 5.2), but it's just that--anecdotal. The simulators are ranking Talisman lower than the others due to the way it performs in Simc and FD, but that doesn't have to be the final say. Blizzard's focus on the RPPM mechanism in this content is both a blessing (e.g., the uptime seen on some of these trinkets like Renataki has been extraordinary in many cases) and a curse (e.g. there is no guaranteed proc rate or uptime, regardless of your haste value and this is making accurate theorycrafting very difficult).
All that being said, I'm fallible and so are the simulators. This is a community guide, and the sections being discussed here are meant to be guides not gospel. Discussions are not only welcome but also encouraged. If you guys have theorycrafting or simulations you have done that can help us all explore the hunter class more and make better gearing, shot selection, or play-related decisions, such discussions are greatly appreciated.