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Regarding the Armor Pen vs. Agility Discussion:
Does anyone know if Rawr or Toskk's Model on Druid Wiki have updated their models to reflect the actual game mechanics for Armor Pen as Ghostcrawler discussed in a recent blue post? The two models appear to disagree on which stat is better. Rawr lists Armor Pen as best while Toskk lists Agility, even when stacking Armor Pen above 250. I would be interested if people have quantifiable proof from a raid or testing dummy that Armor Pen is better. Perhaps, someone could get their guild to buff them with all of their raid buffs to test the difference on a dummy.
One other consideration, even if Armor Pen is #1 for top DPS it doesn't mean it is the best gear setup for actual raiding. What I mean is that certain fights are difficult to get in shreds or weave in FBs. These types of fights would obviously reduce the value of Armor Pen. This may be a situation where the #1 theorycrafting DPS setup is #2 when actually executed in the real world when you consider the full spectrum of fights we are encountering in Ulduar. I would be interested to hear others thoughts on this though.