Is Thunderfury proc effect affected by the haste/slow changes?
Posted 23 August 2006 - 09:27 AM
Now the TF slow debuff on a target states "Time between attacks slowed by 20%"
"Slowing its attack speed by 20%" (the tooltip description on TF)
"Time between attacks slowed by 20%" (the debuff on a mob affected by the primary TF proc)?
Posted 23 August 2006 - 09:35 AM
Posted 23 August 2006 - 09:48 AM
The patch notes read:
"Thunderclap: This ability was left at 10% despite the haste effect changes. This means its potency has been reduced slightly."
Now the tooltip for thunderclap reads "... increasing the time between their attacks by 10%..."
I don't understand why Blizz mentions its potency has been reduced slightly. How?
Posted 23 August 2006 - 09:56 AM
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 10:14 AM
Posted 23 August 2006 - 10:44 AM
It's not that they were all additive before in this case, as implied in the patch notes. Back in the golden years of 1.11, 30% haste and a 30% slow wouldn't cancel out properly, and a 30% slow on melee and a 30% slow on spell casting wouldn't produce the same decrease. So, Blizzard made some new and improved formulas that fix that issue.
Previously Haste and Slow effects worked inconsistently, with spells working differently from weapons, and hastes and slows not acting as inverses of each other. We have revised the system so that all haste and slow effects work the same way, and haste and slow percentages of the same magnitude perfectly cancel each other out (30% haste and 30% slow combine to no change). As a result, we had to change the tooltip numbers on all spell haste effects, and on all melee and range slow effects. The numbers in the tooltips are different, but the game functionality is unchanged (other than slight rounding errors). Those tooltips that changed will now display larger numbers than they used to display.
These crazy new formulas require larger magnitudes to achieve the same apparent effect for everything but spell slow effects. In the case of with thunderclap and thunderfury, their effects will be lessened because they have not been increased to compensate for the new formulas.
Not sure what the new formula is exactly, but it should be consistent with the old spell slow formula.
Posted 23 August 2006 - 12:08 PM
On the PTR, TF debuff had been increased to 25%. When the patch went live, the tooltip says 20% again, which apparantly is a bug?
In the case of with thunderclap and thunderfury, their effects will be lessened because they have not been increased to compensate for the new formulas.
# Thunderfury slow effect is incorrect
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