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      Welcome to the Elitist Jerks forums, a WoW discussion forum targeted towards topics regarding high-end raiding and analysis of game mechanics. We ask you to take a few minutes to read the following before making use of these forums.   First, a point of clarification. The name of these forums is not intended ironically; we have high standards for the discussion that occurs herein, and we're quite unapologetic about it. If you feel our rules are stupid or arbitrary, we don't really care. If you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to return to the official Blizzard forums.   Following is a brief listing of our forum rules; note that it is by no means exhaustive, as in our experience people are quite innovative in finding new ways to be stupid. These are simply a set of guidelines to get you started in the right direction. 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  • Character Name Gurgthock
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  • Realm Mal'Ganis
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  1. Hey Gurg! It's been a long time. Thanks very much for not removing me from the guild roster over five inactive years. It doesn't really mean anything but it felt nice to log back in and still be in EJ. I write you for the same reason I re-activated my account: I'm writing a book about WoW. It's a popular history centered on the game, its cultural impact and most of all the enormous and amazing community that's sustained it. The project's been in the works for a while; I've signed a contract with the Chicago Review Press and the book should be coming out in late 2017.

    Since I happen to know this guy who's one of the core designers on the game, getting in touch with you was an obvious step. I'd very much like to open a dialogue with you about the game and its adaptations over the years and what it's meant to so many people all over the world. I know you're a busy guy and carry a lot of responsibilities, but WoW deserves a proper accounting in history and this project can be really special if it includes the right voices. There's none I'd want more than yours.

    What do you say?

    -Tony Palumbi (Ghando)

  2. Defiler's End

    Valor upgrades definitely sped this one up, but we'd been making steady progress each night which made for a nice learning curve regardless. And I'm not going to complain about a little boost to get Archimonde down before the holidays wreak havoc on scheduling. Thanks to everyone for great play the last couple of months in particular, really picking up the overall level to close out the tier. Thanks especially to Shabadu and Heckbringer who were instrumental in getting us here, but sat out the big kill. After 11+ months of more or less continuous progression, looking forward to a leisurely farm schedule. Recruitment is pretty much frozen at this point, but exceptional applicants interested in joining for Legion should feel free to reach out, though we'll need to see who rerolls, leaves, returns, etc., going into the new expansion before taking any further steps. Final pull counts: Archimonde - 157 Mannoroth - 175 Xhul'horac - 101 Velhari - 79 Zakuun - 29 Iskar - 4 (lol) Socrethar - 30 Gorefiend - ~110 Kilrogg - 34 Council - 30 Kormrok - 39 Reaver - 37 Hellfire Assault - 31 Archimonde (Heroic) - 51 Blackhand (Mythic) - 339 [bit of context there - granted, lots of quick p1/transition wipes]
  3. Mannoroth

    12 down, one to go. Fun fight to progress on from start to finish, just making small adjustments and getting comfortable with the timings throughout. Now for fun times with the big guy. We're probably all set as far as recruitment goes at this late stage of the tier, but exceptional candidates are always welcome to apply.
  4. Floor 2 (+Recruitment update)

    After Gorefiend, there wasn't really an specific single boss that felt like it merited a front-page update, but at this point, collectively the entire second floor of the Citadel seems like it does. Onwards to the roof, and Mannoroth. Time for the real challenge. With the arrival of fall and changing work/class schedules, we're looking to replace a mage and add one more ranged DPS to our lineup to give us some flexibility as we close out the tier. More information here: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/22898-hordemalganis-elitist-jerks-recruitment/
  5. Gorefiend

    As usual, definitely felt like this should've been dead sooner, but I'll take it. Good to have the first major roadblock behind us, and now on to floor 2...
  6. Hellfire Citadel

    Getting the ball rolling on Mythic - aka learning how to actually do the fights and their mechanics.
  7. Cutting Edge?

    Came in under the wire. This one was a bitch - felt like we should've had a kill ages ago on some level, but at the same time it was steady progress and refinement from our first pull a month ago through our kill tonight. If WarcraftLogs is to be believed, world first no-Disc-one-moonkin-one-hunter-one-warlock Mythic Blackhand? Fun times. Speaking of which, recruiting for 6.2! We could use a dedicated Disc priest in particular, and then one or two miscellaneous DPS of nearly any spec. If you have experience with serious progression raiding and are looking for a somewhat more relaxed pace with a bunch of jaded veterans, check out our app here: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/22898-hordemalganis-elitist-jerks-recruitment/
  8. 9/10

    I definitely don't envy the folks who did this pre-nerf with P1 having razor-thin margins of error. Now for Blackhand, where for once we actually coincidentally don't have the worst conceivable raid comp for something. We're still looking for a full-time healy priest and a DPS (likely rogue) - check out our application and PM me if interested: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/22898-hordemalganis-elitist-jerks-recruitment/
  9. Maidens

    Pretty steady and quick progression to get this trio down, leaving us with two to go. Still looking for a healing (Disc mainly) priest and a melee DPS, preferably rogue - see our application forum and send a PM if interested.
  10. Quick Highmaul Detour

    Ducked back into Highmaul to wrap up unfinished business for the sake of achievements and WoWProgress points. Gear kind of makes a huge difference here. Now to focus our attention on wrapping up Furnace. We're recruiting a couple of players (Disc priest, rogue, maybe one other melee) - see http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/22898-hordemalganis-elitist-jerks-recruitment/for more info, and please PM me an app if interested.
  11. Kromog

    After a couple of weeks off from progression for various travel and mini-guild-meetup activities, we got back to progression and made relatively quick work of this guy - the few extra item levels certainly didn't hurt: Trains next, and then the serious stuff begins.
  12. And a couple more...

    After a slow start (protip: if you're at the lower end of the gear spectrum for Mythic Foundry, there are far easier places to start your Mythic journey than Darmac, despite the WoWProgress kill stats...) we racked up another couple of kills so far this timer, and there's still one night to go:
  13. Terminated

    Forgot to take a screenshot of our first Mythic kill, but we got these guys down: Oddly, I got the feeling that more screenshots got taken of this boss kill than most of our prior ones. Not sure why....
  14. Blackrock Foundry

    After falling a bit short at the end of the first timer, we want back and finished off Blackhand earlier this week: Onward to Mythic progress, and an exciting (and a bit daunting) road ahead. Recruitment update: As a few folks have had schedule changes in the new year and can't consistently attend our raids anymore, we're looking to shore up our roster with ~2 more players. Ideally one hybrid DPS/healer, and one Ret paladin, though strong applicants of nearly any class/role will be considered. More information here: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/22898-hordemalganis-elitist-jerks-recruitment/
  15. [Horde][Mal'Ganis] <Elitist Jerks> Recruitment

    Updated for Warlords.