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  1. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Ahh, Blizzard don't refer to your realm as Aggra, they refer to it asAggra-Portugues. If you use that for your server it should resolve your issue.
  2. [Balance] New 6.0 Rotation Discussion

    I'll admit I'd forgotten AC can now be used on the move, that certainly helps a bit in some situations. It'll be interesting to see how things develop, I think we've got several more changes coming in the next build?
  3. Crit and Mastery are pretty even on paper, but the fact that Crit gives you more SS procs to use on movement fights makes it worthwhile to keep stacking it (in my opinion) even at high levels of Crit.
  4. [Balance] New 6.0 Rotation Discussion

    My main concerns about the rotation are (and I'm sure some of these will be remedied when I get a chance to try it out myself): How static the single target rotation is potentially going to feel. The nature of it just asks us to math out the best point to DoT, the best point to Starsurge, etc. With the reduced proc rate of Shooting Stars, the ability to store 3 charges of Starsurge and the removal of Starfall as a rotational spell I worry that the reactive nature of the spec will be gone. Not really sure how to resolve that without us ending up back in SS machine-gun land, though. Right now the results you'd get from a spell predictor addon would not be great, it definitely seems that this kind of thing would turn out much higher DPS after 6.0 changes come in. That may be the desired direction from some of the comments, though, so I guess that's understandable. The AC problems have been highlighted above, but I think it's worth reiterating that not being able to pre-set our Eclipse position is going to get very annoying, very quickly and there doesn't really seem to be any great reason for us not to be able to do this. The other issue is that using AC to line up for combat events will probably devolve to having a BPT type mod tie into your boss mod and say "AC for X seconds now". Not going to be a problem for high-end druids, but I'd imagine the majority will struggle. The DoT changes present an issue in that we're going to mangle our DPS if we overwrite them while moving, and we need to use Starsurge to keep our normal rotation competitive. Obviously, encounter design is going to play a big part in this, but it does make me a little nervous for things like Proving Grounds/Challenge Modes and the inevitable heavy movement encounters again. Overall, I think the changes are very positive, and I'm sure things will evolve and change but I'm a little worried about ending up as a turret-style class who's DPS falls into a hole as soon as you need to dodge mechanics/etc. Granted, I've not played it yet and I'll be able to give more useful feedback once I see how it works in reality and raid testing.
  5. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Just enter your character's name in the name box, Aggra in the server box and choose your region on the righthand side. If it still doesn't work, please post your character's armory and I'll have a look when I get home. Normally you'll only see that if it can't find your character on the Armory.
  6. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Huh, I was sure it was attached. WrathCalcs 140102.xls
  7. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Here are those two crafted items included, and the BiS updated to what Slippy has on his thread over on MMO-Champion. Regarding WoD, honestly the level of gear customization would make me think what we discussed previously about purely going to Armory/WoWhead Profiler and nothing else would be the best option. It would limit the sheets use to Windows & Excel only, don't know how much of an issue that would be. I guess we could just keep the manual adjustments in to allow people to amend stats to match their own if that doesn't work for them.
  8. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    I hadn't added the random stat loot beyond the base item ID as the last time I had a chance to work on it there were no reliable sources. I'll get it sorted soon.
  9. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    How many casts are you seeing with a decent level of gear for FoN? Check to see if that's tallying up with what is in the sheet, that's been an issue previously.
  10. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    None of the 5.4 items seem to be appearing on the Armory yet, so if you have any equipped they'll be showing as blank slots. You'll need to select them manually until Blizzard update the site.
  11. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Done Armory update fixed for gear. I'll re-add talents/etc once the Main sheet is locked back down in terms of layout. Yu'lon's Bite added. Updated BiS profile. To Do Random stat loot. I couldn't find values for the various types, they should appear on Battle.net tomorrow I guess? Profiles.
  12. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Yeah, I'll be polishing it off tonight.
  13. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    I'll update profiles/Armory import just before live as things as still swapping around in terms of layout. Regarding the gear values, I've just had an idea on that. Let me have a think. T16 Trinkets updated to new, more accurate values. Only one to change significantly is Black Blood which has had a buff by the looks of it (still behind the other options on paper, clever use of the proc will obviously inflate that value). Matched the values for a couple of T15 trinkets to Wowhead data (no change in uptime). BiS updated. Quick question: are we going to be able to add sockets to T16 weapons? [edit] Have to go out, random stat loot can go in later! Also, posting to remind myself to update the minimum item level filters. [/edit]
  14. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Done Cloak proc updated. RPPM trinkets updated to formula supplied by Hamlet above. Bindings & Frenzied Crystal still proc*duration/ICD. Looks like a slight boost in DPS for Kardris' Toxic Totem compared to what was on Basic Calcs. Special trinket effects (Amp, MS, Cleave) now calculated by the trinket's ilvl. Missing amulet (Untainted Guardian's Chain Heroic WF) added. BiS updated. Added a bar for Amp values and special bonuses on the Gear Setup tab. Corrected Hit checkbox calculation. To Do Fix Armory import & Profiles (Main sheet changes need to be updated for them). Better solution for legendary cloak triple stats displaying properly. Random stat loot.
  15. [Balance] WrathCalcs

    Oh, my bad on the trinket logic on the new effects. I forgot to include the error checking. I'll get that fixed tonight.