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      Welcome to the Elitist Jerks forums, a WoW discussion forum targeted towards topics regarding high-end raiding and analysis of game mechanics. We ask you to take a few minutes to read the following before making use of these forums.   First, a point of clarification. The name of these forums is not intended ironically; we have high standards for the discussion that occurs herein, and we're quite unapologetic about it. If you feel our rules are stupid or arbitrary, we don't really care. If you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to return to the official Blizzard forums.   Following is a brief listing of our forum rules; note that it is by no means exhaustive, as in our experience people are quite innovative in finding new ways to be stupid. These are simply a set of guidelines to get you started in the right direction. If you follow them, you will generally do fine here; however, if you concoct some creative new form of stupidity, our moderators feel no need to restrain themselves in letting you know. All posters are to make an effort to communicate clearly. In particular, all posts should be made in a reasonable approximation of proper English. We realize that a significant number of you are not native speakers, and we do not expect perfection: merely effort. Please obey basic rules of capitalization and punctuation, avoid chatroom abbreviations ("lol", "imo", "u", and the like), and pay at least minimal attention to sentence and paragraph structure. This includes not starting a new paragraph for each sentence. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible. Do not make multiple consecutive posts; rather, multi-quote and include all your ideas in a single post. Do not quote huge blocks of text to add a short reply; instead, quote only what you need to to make your point. Do not break a single quoted reply into multiple blocks; doing so needlessly lengthens your post without aiding its readability. And don't provide unnecessary backstory: if it isn't relevant to the question you're asking or the point you're making, we don't need to know about it. All discussion should be both polite and civil. Trolling or flaming in any form is forbidden. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are stupid or on drugs and their personal hygiene isn't really relevant to the discussion. Regardless of the merit (or lack thereof) of your argument, it should be made in a way that is neither insulting nor condescending. Whining in any form is forbidden. Blizzard is not incompetent or stupid and they are not intentionally screwing you over and neither is anyone else. If all you're going to do is complain, don't bother posting. Threads should be started if and only if there is some reasonable topic to discuss. If the issue you wish to discuss is covered in an existing thread, use it rather than creating a new one. If you are asking a simple question that you expect to have a simple answer, ask it in one of the "Simple Questions/Simple Answers" threads. But if you feel there is a topic of discussion not well-covered by existing threads, feel free to start a new thread to discuss it. Some sub-forums restrict new members from creating new topics unless they've made at least 10 approved posts, to prevent spamming or bad posts. If you really think it deserves a new thread before you have 10 posts, contact a moderator with your post content. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. Do not bump, quote for truth, cross-post, or post only to say thanks. We don't want to hear your funny story about something that happened in your raid last night, your baseless speculation is unproductive, and your idea for a new ability really isn't that interesting. We don't care what gear you are hoping to get or just received. If you have an idea you'd like to share with the community, support it with analysis, testing, or both that indicates you've put some thought into it. (Note: Posting of a new untested spec falls under this rule, unless you have done the grunt work and have information to support your amazing new spec don't even bother posting it here.) Do not beg for hand-holding. These are forums for discussion and analysis, not for answering any question that you might happen to dream up. Search and read before posting--do not post a question unless you are fairly confident that the answer isn't widely known or easily attainable. In particular, we do not want to take a look at your armory or WWS to tell you what you're doing wrong and we're not interested in making your tough gear or spec decisions for you. We expect you to use the search function and also to read the first post as well as the last 5 pages of the thread you are posting in. Chances are your question has already been answered. Additionally, do not post asking for confirmation of a simulation result. If you think there is a problem with the Sim you are welcome to PM the author. All accounts must have a valid WoW profile. If you no longer play and have deleted all characters you used to have, you may select the "No WoW Account" option; otherwise, this information must be filled out for your main character. If you fail to observe this rule you'll be permanently banned from our forums. We do not permit anonymous posting. Do not sign your posts. People can see who you are from the profile printed to the left of each post, so signing your posts is redundant and simply takes up space. Similarly, you do not need to link your armory in your post, as if people wish to see it they can get it from your profile. Do not respond to terrible posts. Do not respond to a blatantly awful post (a post that is in clear violation of the rules) either in an attempt to moderate them or to answer a question they posed. Your post will just be warned/infracted and removed with the post you are replying to. If you feel that a post is in violation of these rules, please report it and the moderators will deal with it as we feel is appropriate. No Advertising. Do not make posts solely for the purpose of advertising your site/blog/twitch/etc. You may post such things if it's relevant and adds to discussion at hand. If you have information to share, share it here with a link back to your blog or whatever. Do not post "I have information, come to my site to get it". That will result in an immediate infraction and post removal. Also, we will remove any link to a site that violates a games TOS/EULA such as gold selling sites.

      If you violate a forum rule, you will receive an infraction. Most infractions are worth one point, although we reserve the right to give you more at any time if we feel you deserve them. If you accumulate too many infraction points, you will receive an automatic (usually temporary) ban which revokes your posting privileges, as follows: 3 Points - 1 Day 5 Points - 3 Days 8 Points - 1 Week 10 Points - 1 Month 15 Points - Permanent

      Familiarize yourself with The Banhammer, an archive of all infractions given by the moderators here; it will give you some examples of what not to do. Also feel free to take a gander over The Dung Heap, which will give you a good idea of what these forums would look like if we weren't such jerks.   Thank you for joining the discussion!
    • Site Maintenance (Updated 11-12-15)   10/01/15

      Site has been updated to IPS as of 12 November Known Issues So Far: Old wowhead "item" tags are depricated. They may be re-added to fix some issues with older guides, but for most part it's better to just use the modern wowhead.js which auto parses actual wowhead links automatically into tooltips/names. Just post wowhead links in guides and the js will do the rest. You don't need a special BB code for items. Old article links will be broken do to IPS 4 changing url path to remove some pointless "/_/" directory. The articles are still there and can be found in guides menu. You just may not be able to click links from any threads linking to them without editing out the "/_/" part of url. I'll fix most of this little by little when more important stuff is taken care of. External links/google search results may run into same problem. That will just rely on waiting for google to reindex new paths. After you login, you may be thrown to an error page saying page cannot be found if you logged in from the forum index. Harmless though. Just click "forums" and you'll get forum index since redirect after login is busted. The benefactors bar seems to hang/timeout sometimes.


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  1. [5.4 Combat] I'm Not Dead Yet

    Is it really a dps increase to always wait adrenaline rush to end before using killing spree? In some cases it's many finishers and loss of much cd reduction to killing spree. I've thought it's best to use kspree when it's off cd (ofc always before using AR if possible) because it's cd is so short with restless blades + assurance. With those reductions kspree always comes from cd during AR so is it really worth it to wait till the end of AR before using it? You will lose many killing sprees by delaying it.
  2. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

      Thanks for the clarification. I actually know what raw engine is, but when you said Shadowcraft won't be stable until 6.0 I thought you meant web version also. So nevermind then and thanks to you for your hard work for rogue community!
  3. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    I kindly ask you to reconsider this. Most of the rogues are still progressing and it's a last tier of the expansion which is usually the most important tier for most of the raiders. Shadowcraft is the most important tool for rogues to optimize their gear and it would be a very sad thing if we ain't able to use it while still progressing. Another thing is that expansion is probably nearly a year away and there really ain't much information out yet so is there really so big need to rush? Shadowcraft is meant to help in progression and it doesn't feel right to break it when majority of rogues are still progressing.
  4. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Secondary stat weights (mastery, haste, crit) seem to be very close to each other. At least for me (with t16 2 piece bonus), bumping one stat makes others better and vice versa. You should tinker with Shadowcraft to find an optimal balance for your gear setup.
  5. Rogue Simple Questions

    Oh. I thought he mixed up deadly poison procs and ticks so that's why I was talking about procs (didn't have the logs yet to see that aoe was actual reason). And didn't actually even know that logs separate dp ticks and procs (yes, I've been slacky with logs this expansion). My bad. So yes, haste increases amount of procs, not amount of ticks.
  6. Rogue Simple Questions

    My guess: He has more haste than you and you have more mastery than him? More haste/less mastery means more autoattacks and specials that means more poison procs but individual procs being lower in damage. And more mastery/less haste means less procs (because of less attacks) but individual procs are bigger.
  7. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Oh, I was so stupid. And yeah, haven't either figured how to do it in Shadowcraft.
  8. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Brain fart by me. Please delete.
  9. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Item level isn't everything. If it was, gearing would be very easy. For example Darkmoon trinkets have always been very good compared to their ilvl. Some gear pieces have bad stats and some good even if they are same ilvl. It's as simple as that.
  10. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Mastery and haste are so close to each other in value for you that the sweet spot is somewhere between full reforging/gemming to mastery and full reforging/gemming to haste. Shadowcraft just doesn't do it item by item so you have to try to change one piece at a time manually to see what gives you the highest dps. And to the offhand "problem", there is a huge ilvl difference in those two daggers so it's no wonder hc Megaera dagger is better. I know there was some talk earlier that heroic Spiritsever would be best in slot offhand in almost any case until heroic thunderforged daggers but that was proven to be wrong. And I believe that earlier speculation didn't even take account ilvl upgrades on this tier gear that are also now available. Spiritsever increasing mastery value compared to hc Megaera dagger is actually quite logical because mastery increases poison damage and poison damage isn't affected by lower damage of Spiritsever in any way (none of poison mechanics use offhand dps in calculations). Haste instead means more mutilates and more autoattacks that are affected by offhand damage. Briefly: Just trust Shadowcraft. There is nothing odd in your results. :)
  11. Monk Simple Questions Thread: Mists Edition

    I've been wondering if Ascension buff is still live at ptr. There have been lots of ptr patch notes lately that include other changes that were implemented at the same time with Acension buff but those new notes haven't mentioned anything about Ascension. That made me wondering if it's removed or if it's still in. Anyone can confirm this?
  12. Thread of Ultimate Stupidity

    It's subtlety mastery and Cataclysm raiding FAQ didn't have subtlety values until Aldriana edited it today so I think we can safely assume that values are now up-to-date.