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      Site has been updated to IPS as of 12 November Known Issues So Far: Old wowhead "item" tags are depricated. They may be re-added to fix some issues with older guides, but for most part it's better to just use the modern wowhead.js which auto parses actual wowhead links automatically into tooltips/names. Just post wowhead links in guides and the js will do the rest. You don't need a special BB code for items. Old article links will be broken do to IPS 4 changing url path to remove some pointless "/_/" directory. The articles are still there and can be found in guides menu. You just may not be able to click links from any threads linking to them without editing out the "/_/" part of url. I'll fix most of this little by little when more important stuff is taken care of. External links/google search results may run into same problem. That will just rely on waiting for google to reindex new paths. After you login, you may be thrown to an error page saying page cannot be found if you logged in from the forum index. Harmless though. Just click "forums" and you'll get forum index since redirect after login is busted. The benefactors bar seems to hang/timeout sometimes.


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  1. World of Logs Analysis (Help me not suck thread)

    So there is another ret paladin in my guild named "Zaturn" you'll see him in the parse, we are basically on par with each other gear wise, but he absolutley destorys not only me but the meters as well genrally 1-3 place depending on the fight. I've talked to him and we've compared...but I just don't knwo how to break my own glass ceiling here. I've reforged, gemmed etc maybe someone here can point out what I may or may not be doing that's keepign me from the rank category of player.   WoL:   http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-i380xs524mglutsh/sum/damageDone/?s=4688&e=5078   Armory:   http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/misha/Tyazr%C3%A1el/simple       due to the thok trinket I am reforgiing crit>mastery but keeping the normal haste build so I am Haste>Crit>Mastery     same as the other pally but Im not gemming crit like he is maybe someoen can help me understand whats wrong and what I need to fix
  2. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Excellent suggestion either that or possibly selfless healer stacks?
  3. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Currently using this rotation: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp mexo how cs j ES tv3 seems to workout pretty well not sure if ES is working in the full manner I'd like it too when in execute phase wants to ignore the cd on ES, but it seems to be holding pretty well, Anyone else got any result or play around rotations?
  4. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Seems to be needed because other wise it won't be picked up in the rotation that code line tells what the priority is in clcinfo in case you're not familiar, and that particular one is from my experimentation with the new update seeing as the lvl 90 were finally coded and added in.
  5. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    So I am assuming from your reply this would be possibly optimal? Priority: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp es mexo how cs j tv3 or Priority: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp mexo how es cs j tv3
  6. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Here is what I came up with after a while of trial and error with the new update that includes the lvl 90 talents (note i'm really not that good at this part of the addon) I just merely plugged in the new talents and codes where I thought they would fit so keep that in mind, from a previous setup I found. Please feel free to change or provide a better priority, like I said I not good at this portion and figure I'd try. Old Priority: inq tv5 mexo how cs j tv3 New Priority: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp mexo es how cs j tv3 tvdp es Some things I am concerned about; 1) is it optimal? 2) trying to get Execution Sentence to take priority over HoW when wings are active if feasible or possible (before update I'd pop GoAK wait 10 seconds then pop AW,ES, HA (if I specced it). Reason behind AW then ES is to get the damage boost...not sure if that was correct either. 3) Do we as Ret use these CD executing sentence and Lights hammer right off the bat like mages did with Flame Orb or do we line it up with AW and hit every CD point from there?
  7. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Great Thanks for the update! Now to wreck my brain constructing the optimal rotation priority...but it'll be so worth it I'm excited about this! Hopefully with the update and the addition of the lvl 90 talents an new priority code can be implimented
  8. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Could I ask you to give me the direct priority line up format for clcinfo I tried and I think I completely botched it up trying convert it from the quoted text
  9. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    Hey thanks for the explanation I'll set it up shortly, now as for the priority set up thats a different issue unless this lua helps with that
  10. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    I've tried to use this input in the current version for the MoP beta is there something i'm missing as I keep getting an error. So I am currently unable to get this priority to work for testing. I'd also like to ask about the retribution.lua that was posted where does that come into play and how am I able to implement it? I'm not new to clcret but info is new to me since clcret has not been updated for MoP.
  11. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    I'd like to see this if you are going to post it I find it a little daunting to have to watch for it, when it can be missed easily in the mists of heavy action.
  12. Thread of Ultimate Stupidity

    Thank you for the feedback and if I may ask what is the hit cap now? and what pieces should I replace and re-gem please feel free to armory me and provide me with this feedback...I am my guilds Shammy Class leader and need to know this information to pass down to future app'ing shaman