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  1. [Resto] Mists of Pandaria 5.4

    Dear Jlocout, i would kindly ask you to reconsider the suggestions you give to help seeking players, as a big part of what u wrote is just plain nonsense: And again: Harmony uptime has 0 correlation with ur current haste rating and again: You dont sacrifce spirit to gain the 13k hpp, you sacrfice your mastery rating to gain the desired haste value.   Please do not tell people about things you obviously have no clue about...   Generally, 99% of the top logs in SoO hc mode are done with the 13k hbp, there is no reason to delay the switch to the 13k hbp when you have enough secondary stats/items with haste rating. I personally tried the 13k hbp and the 3k hbp on Thok hc 10 man prenerf and the switch to the 3k hbp was absolutely disappointing. It was roughly 50-80k less throughput in p1. So go for it (13khbp) as soon as you can
  2. [Resto] Mists of Pandaria 5.4

    In my opinion 13k hbp is the way to go, being available since the end of ToT when you could easily reach this value with an average itemlvl of 540 (even earlier with perfect itemization). With your itemlevel you can easily go for the 13k hbp and still sustain a decent amount of mastery and spirit. About our spirit concerns: Its a raidcomp and raidsize specific issue and of course after all dependant on your personal playstyle. You have to stack more spirit if you dont have access to manatide / moonkin innervate etc. Also in 25`s you tend to spend more mana than you do in 10`s. I personally raided till Thok with a very low amount of Spirit (8-10k) but i had a Reso shaman and moonkin with me and i was in a 10 man guild. When progressing Thok i added some extra spirit due to the mana intensive healing phases while being stacked in camps. For testing purposes i also tried the 3045 hbp during Thok progress but i switched back to the 13k hbp very quickly as it was a noticeable throughput loss for me.   Edit: Looking at your armory i can see that you are at 3278 haste, meaning that you are about 220 haste above the cap which makes those 220 haste very inefficient. Only a small amount of couse but still this would not be the case when going for the 13k hbp   This is my log from yesterday Thok hc 10 man (atm #2 world druid for thok) http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-00qnl27qcn8hl5ld/sum/healingDone/?s=9103&e=9500#Reevan   Hope i could help you out
  3. [Resto] Mists of Pandaria 5.4

    Trinkets are in my opinion encounter and raidsize specific.   While Prismatic Prison of Pride seems to be doing well in any circumstances, i change my 2nd trinket slot for the current encounter. For Thok progress i used Thok's Acid Grooved Tooth as we played with 2 big camps and thus the cleave proc hit its maximum number of targets. For Siegecrafter and Klaxxi progress i used Dysmporhic Samophlange as i had mana issues. To answer your question: Thok preferred when your raid stacks , Nazgrim when people are split. Though i can`t prove it as i am a 10 man only raider, i would say that in a 25 raiding environment thok scales better as more potential cleave targets are present
  4. [Resto] Mists of Pandaria 5.4

      This is my personal best on Thok, being #1 Druid  for some days http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-oc057lf24hrmzml4/sum/healingDone/?s=14064&e=14548#Reevan   My experience is that i do not have time to use Incarnation as it would be in my opinion a throughput loss. My rotation is as following (10 man): Apply Rejuvenation to all raidmembers,bloom mushroom if needed, use Swiftmend and Wildgrowth,place mushroom, refresh lifebloom, start from beginning. Even with high haste numbers, the gcd triggered from an instant regrowth is longer than the 1 sec gcd from reju. I only tried Incarnation once while progress and did not really like it.
  5. Thread of Ultimate Stupidity

    did you face any problems with sindragosas cleave ?