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  1. [Ret 6.2 WoD] Retribution Concordance (RetCon)

    Hello, any one has been running logs for best single target and multi target trinkets ?
  2. hello, i got a quick question. I have tried to sim some friends to check the stats, but the simcraft is not showing any information regarding the weapon damage. For melee classes, weapon damage ( even weapon speed ) is very important so we pick up the weapon with higher damage stats. how does it go for boomkins ? if i have two weapons with similar stats but different weapon damage/speed, does it matter ?
  3. [Balance] Simple questions + WoL Feedback

    hello, i got a quick question. I have tried to sim some friends to check the stats, but the simcraft is not showing any information regarding the weapon damage. For melee classes, weapon damage ( even weapon speed ) is very important so we pick up the weapon with higher damage stats. how does it go for boomkins ? if i have two weapons with similar stats but different weapon damage/speed, does it matter ?
  4. Logs were for 25 heroic, not a normal run so total damage is supposed to be 4725000. Just immunity spells will increase the damage on the party.
  5. Using glyph of divine protection to soak on kalaxi hm aim spell; 4.725 m shared dmg with 5 other players ( approx 780k each ). My average damage taken from soaking is 700k. s the glyph bugged ? and why aim spell is totally ignoring my armor ? http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ic0ofd39ko4epomx/spell/142950/ you can see in death, how much damage i am taking from aim spell '' called fire on wol , and it is not a 1.4 m dmg spell
  6. Do you reforge into mastery for AoE encounters ? i am going for haste>mastery=cril on single target and Mastery>hate for AoE encounters, on first 5 tries ( swapping reforge between haste and mastery prio ) , it seems mastery is much better for AoE encounter. Can anyone confirm ?
  7. Copied from blue post : •Corrected an issue where Divine Purpose and the Tier-16 Retribution 4-piece bonus was not interacting properly with each other. Any maths done for choosing DP Over the other two talents ?
  8. Has anyone tested [iTEM]Fabled Feather of Ji-Kun[/iTEM] ? I got my hands on it yesterday. On first sight it seemed that the proc rate is low however, and when pulling boss ( pre-pot, using cd's ) , it's proc rate is noticable. Thats what i personally noticed but not sure though. Edit: the linked item should be the normal version not LFR one, it's bugging for some reason.
  9. Ain't sure if i missed this but, why aren't you including perfect etched roguestone ( + 80 str + 160 hit ) in the blue socket gems on your sheet ? it should be better than the green gem lightning wild jade
  10. Do we need to reforge back to mastery ( Mastery > Haste ) for multi-target encounters such as windlord Mel'jarak I.E ?
  11. [Ret 5.0 Pre-MoP] - Panda-ring to all players

    I had a question that was postpone, would str > haste be main stats for a single target and str>mastery main stats for multi targets ? and would this affect your results ?
  12. [Ret 5.0 Pre-MoP] - Panda-ring to all players

    Running on Gear Ilvl 408 , decided to use heoric tier shoulders instead of backbreakers spaulders , to gain more haste and i went for: Str > Hit cap ( 7.5%) = Exp cap ( 7.5% ) > Haste > Mastery > Crit with DP talented. Tried ultraxion twice today and got 137k dps on burst, 52k dps sustained. I would have been able to push more but still not used on rotation. Rotation priorety i followed was as per Exemplar recommendation; Inq > 5TV > Exo > HoW > CS > J > 3 TV > SS ( as filler ). The only times i decided to go for 5TV was on Exo proc and/or on AW. ( using flask , full raid buff and pre-pot ) This is a link for the encounter : World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis I will try different stats prio with keeping the same rotation and will share that.
  13. [Ret 5.0 Pre-MoP] - Panda-ring to all players

    Seems on live server you can use both glyphs; harsh words and glyph of word of glory. They interact with each others so you can now cast wog on target and gain 3% damage inc buff per holy power for 6 seconds for a maximum of 3 hp's. Can we consider that in our rotation ? is it worth it ?
  14. [Ret 5.0 Pre-MoP] - Panda-ring to all players

    Thx Hamsda/Exemplar for correcting my mistake.