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About Icharispally

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  • Birthday 06/22/67

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  • Character Name Icharis
  • Guild Elysian
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  1. great thx.  so if i am doing 350k DPS and i get a proc from 15,000 strength, that would equate to 30,000 AP  Dividing that by 14 gives me 2142.85 weapon DPS.  Multiply that by my weapon speed of 3.6 and i get 7714 net DPS increase.  Is that correct?   Comparing that to 5% increase from Warrior of the Light (350,000 x .05 = 17,500) would show that i get more than double the benefit from Warrior of the Light.
  2. i have a basic question that once i know the math, i can apply here forward.  I wanted to know how to calculate the increased damage based upon an increase in strength.   For example, when our trinkets proc and we get 15,000 strength, how much increase in DPS is that, so i know how to compare to Warrior of the Light, where we get a 5% damage increase.
  3. World of Logs Analysis (Help me not suck thread)

    Having trouble keeping up with other melee DPS.  Here are a couple of logs:     http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-moagc09qw5u7cia5/details/14/?s=2054&e=2288     (this is with 40% haste unbuffed)     http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-c899kv7x8tyqvshe/sum/damageDone/?s=3504&e=3847   (this is with 40% haste when buffed)     My armory is here:     http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/sargeras/Icharisflame/advanced     I have optimized with AskMrRobot, and when i used clcret, i use this rotation:          inq inqes inqlh inqhpr ds_4t16_5hp tv5 how tvaw cs j ds_4t16 tvdp exo tv4 tv3 ss   Any help would be appreciated.
  4. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    I don't know that this can be done with CLCret. However ButtonTimers does this quite well. I use if for tracking AW, Inq, and GoAK durations
  5. Thread of Ultimate Stupidity

    question about the new Tier 14 4pc set changes in 5.2. I was wondering if this is a positive, negative, or neutral change to our DPS from the original Tier 14 4pc set? And how does the Tier 14 4pc now compare with a Tier 15 2pc?
  6. Paladin Simple Questions

    I have a question about AOE situations. At what point (number of targets) does HoR and DS overtake Exo and HoW. And is this affected by SW? So if I cast a SW and am fighting X targets, at what point does my rotation change from HoW>Exo/J>HoW>TV to HoR>HoW/Exo>HoR>DS?
  7. Paladin Simple Questions

    I have a question about Execution Sentence. Which buffs increase the DPS of this spell. Strength, Haste (more ticks?), AP (= more SP), etc?
  8. World of Logs Analysis (Help me not suck thread)

    Astroth, I noticed in your world of logs a couple of issues that are impacting your DPS. I reviewed that data from you final attempt on the Blade Lord as this was your longest attempt at 8:13. In your Buff Details under Buffs cast you will note that your Inquisition is up only 84% of the time. That needs to be closer to 98%. Also your second most frequent buff is Sacred Shield with an uptime of 55%. Casting SS this often is a DPS loss as you are not doing any DPS. The other thing i noticed was that you only used your Hammer of Wrath 9 times (Buff Details, Buffs Cast, Power gains). Given that you cast Avenging Wrath 3 times, you should have more Hammer of Wrath casts.
  9. I had a question about Execution Sentence and Inquisition. As our only real DOT, does ES use the buffs at the moment it was cast (Inquisition, trinket procs, etc), or does it alter its DPS as those buffs change during its course?
  10. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    With obtaining my 4 piece bonus i now use the tier 5 talent Sanctified Wrath. I have changed the priority on the rotation options in my clcret (to cover both my normal rotation and that on AW) to be: inq howaw tvaw tv5 inqes inqhpr how exo cs j tv3 ss I welcome any comments and inputs that would improve this.
  11. Warlock Simple Questions Thread: Mists Edition

    Hi all, I have a pretty simple question. What does $SP stand for. I would have thought it was spell power, but Seed of corruption description says "When the target takes (1346 ( + 126% of SpellPower) + $SP * 1.8) total damage from the caster or dies, the seed will inflict 900 to 1044 (+ 91% of SpellPower)" indicating that $SP and SpellPower are 2 different things
  12. Ret FCFS Rotation Helper

    One aspect i would like to see with FCFS is a countdown timer. Inquisition gets recommended before the timer runs out, and based on what i can see is coming i hit it at a more ideal time if i know exactly when Inq is going to run out. i find myself having to look over at my buffs bar when i see Inq pop up in FCFS to see how many seconds are left. Having that in FCFS would be very helpful