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  1. Unholy DPS 5.4 - The Fun has been Doubled!

    I found that 2-set bonus is ok, but not so for the 4-set bonus.
  2. Frost DPS 5.4 - Howling Blargh

    I'm doing HelterSkelter, not Patchwerk btw.
  3. Frost DPS 5.4 - Howling Blargh

    I know the dummy is far from a good way to test your setup, I just did a quick one to see what happend with and without the 4-set bonus. I will add Plague Leech right away. As to what the sim utilises, I would expect SimCraft to do so, but will check the rotation it uses and the weights it puts on the different abilities/attacks.
  4. Frost DPS 5.4 - Howling Blargh

    This article talks about "realistic sims" and I would like to know if SimulationCraft (I'm using 547-2)is among them. The reason is that I have been given a somewhat crazy stat weight. Sadly I can't upload the results from SimCraft, since they are above the limit, even packed. Character: Angelhearth, EU-Runetotem This problem started when I wanted to check the difference between Pauldrons of Cyclopean Dead, 528+0 and Darkfallen Shoulderplates, 559+8. I noticed, both by practicing on a dummy and running SimCraft, that the 4-set bonus far outweighed the 567 Darkfallen Shoulderplates (no, iLvl is NOT everything). But when I equiped them and ran the simulaion, I got this surprise: MH DPS 7.32 OH DPS 3.65 Hit 5.79 Exp 5.63 Str 5.51 HASTE 3.05 Mastery 2.89 Crit 2.35 AP 1.99 If this is correct and I follow Ask Mr. Robot's suggestion my haste would be 26.26%, up 19.94%, mastery 56.55%, down 18.66%, crit 17.26%, down 6.16%. I ran this all the way up to 250,000 iterations. I have been told that you can't trust SimCraft when it comes to DK's, but trying to get an answer by submitting a "bug-report" on their official site, I'm just told that what I talk about is without interst. I have tried to post this on the forum, but it gets moved to the "big bag of garbage" where you never get any answers anyway, but since this article talks about simulations, I figure, me asking about it should be valid.
  5. I have played around with SimCraft the last couple of days (and used a fortune on gems, potions and cigarettes hehe) and I still have ~43,000 too low DPS. My DPS should, acording to SimCraft,be 161,746 in a 350 sec. fight (Tank and Spank with average skill). I test this against Highlord's Nemesis Trainer in Ebon Hold (I know that isn't the same as what SimCraft does, but it's the only dummy I know of that can be usedas single target with HB, DoT's and what not) and get (with a few errors) 118322 (last fight, but all the fights I have done have been close). I have macroed in Blood Tap, Pillar of Frost, Anti-Magic Shell and Potion of Mogu Power. Using every one of them as soon as they are up (and I hit Howling Frost). I use SpellFlash since I don't react fast enough to the runes. 1. I notice that SimCraft has my Ghoul up every minute, even though it is on a 120 sec timer (even says so in the description of the ability in SimCraft). 2. My ghoul and army perform well inside the standard deviation. 3. I use Potion of Mogue Power before I call the army followed by raise dead. I then use D&D (only time during the fight) to start the action. 4. SimCraft is set to a 350 second fight while I do it until my ghoul is ready the third time (about 360 seconds). 5. I have reforged, enchanted and gemmed acording to stat weights suggested by SimCraft (with max itterations, plots and reforge plots). I used askmrrobot.com.I had to divide them by 2 since str was at 10.24 and that site doesn't accept stats above 9.99. Also, askmrrobot.comput my hit at 8.26%, which is well above the cap. Any suggestions? Isn't askmrrobot.com good enough? Isn't SpellFlash good enough? Sincerely Desperate Player Character is Angelhearth on EU-Aszune The result from SimCraft is attached. Edit Forgot to say that I don't use Soul Reaper as it has no effect on a dummy. That's -8,875 DPS, but still missing way too much. Angelhearth-Aszune_140104_0558.rar