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      Welcome to the Elitist Jerks forums, a WoW discussion forum targeted towards topics regarding high-end raiding and analysis of game mechanics. We ask you to take a few minutes to read the following before making use of these forums.   First, a point of clarification. The name of these forums is not intended ironically; we have high standards for the discussion that occurs herein, and we're quite unapologetic about it. If you feel our rules are stupid or arbitrary, we don't really care. If you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to return to the official Blizzard forums.   Following is a brief listing of our forum rules; note that it is by no means exhaustive, as in our experience people are quite innovative in finding new ways to be stupid. These are simply a set of guidelines to get you started in the right direction. If you follow them, you will generally do fine here; however, if you concoct some creative new form of stupidity, our moderators feel no need to restrain themselves in letting you know. All posters are to make an effort to communicate clearly. In particular, all posts should be made in a reasonable approximation of proper English. We realize that a significant number of you are not native speakers, and we do not expect perfection: merely effort. Please obey basic rules of capitalization and punctuation, avoid chatroom abbreviations ("lol", "imo", "u", and the like), and pay at least minimal attention to sentence and paragraph structure. This includes not starting a new paragraph for each sentence. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible. Do not make multiple consecutive posts; rather, multi-quote and include all your ideas in a single post. Do not quote huge blocks of text to add a short reply; instead, quote only what you need to to make your point. 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We don't care what gear you are hoping to get or just received. If you have an idea you'd like to share with the community, support it with analysis, testing, or both that indicates you've put some thought into it. (Note: Posting of a new untested spec falls under this rule, unless you have done the grunt work and have information to support your amazing new spec don't even bother posting it here.) Do not beg for hand-holding. These are forums for discussion and analysis, not for answering any question that you might happen to dream up. Search and read before posting--do not post a question unless you are fairly confident that the answer isn't widely known or easily attainable. In particular, we do not want to take a look at your armory or WWS to tell you what you're doing wrong and we're not interested in making your tough gear or spec decisions for you. We expect you to use the search function and also to read the first post as well as the last 5 pages of the thread you are posting in. Chances are your question has already been answered. Additionally, do not post asking for confirmation of a simulation result. If you think there is a problem with the Sim you are welcome to PM the author. All accounts must have a valid WoW profile. If you no longer play and have deleted all characters you used to have, you may select the "No WoW Account" option; otherwise, this information must be filled out for your main character. If you fail to observe this rule you'll be permanently banned from our forums. We do not permit anonymous posting. Do not sign your posts. People can see who you are from the profile printed to the left of each post, so signing your posts is redundant and simply takes up space. Similarly, you do not need to link your armory in your post, as if people wish to see it they can get it from your profile. Do not respond to terrible posts. Do not respond to a blatantly awful post (a post that is in clear violation of the rules) either in an attempt to moderate them or to answer a question they posed. Your post will just be warned/infracted and removed with the post you are replying to. If you feel that a post is in violation of these rules, please report it and the moderators will deal with it as we feel is appropriate. No Advertising. Do not make posts solely for the purpose of advertising your site/blog/twitch/etc. You may post such things if it's relevant and adds to discussion at hand. If you have information to share, share it here with a link back to your blog or whatever. Do not post "I have information, come to my site to get it". That will result in an immediate infraction and post removal. Also, we will remove any link to a site that violates a games TOS/EULA such as gold selling sites.

      If you violate a forum rule, you will receive an infraction. Most infractions are worth one point, although we reserve the right to give you more at any time if we feel you deserve them. If you accumulate too many infraction points, you will receive an automatic (usually temporary) ban which revokes your posting privileges, as follows: 3 Points - 1 Day 5 Points - 3 Days 8 Points - 1 Week 10 Points - 1 Month 15 Points - Permanent

      Familiarize yourself with The Banhammer, an archive of all infractions given by the moderators here; it will give you some examples of what not to do. Also feel free to take a gander over The Dung Heap, which will give you a good idea of what these forums would look like if we weren't such jerks.   Thank you for joining the discussion!


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  1. ShadowCraft for Warlords of Draenor

    Yeah, I have found very conflicting adivse and information spread all over the net regarding rogues in WoD..and have resorted to very time consuming trial and error for a lot of things, that and simply discussing things with other rogues on my realm and friends list. Being a realtive newb on here Im not sure what happend, but I was sorry to see that there was no new WoD information :( I just checked out MAXDps and it says Lei Shen Rune of Re origination is BiS trink by a long shot currently, but I find that hard to belive, Regarding Stat weights I have been using AskMrRobot(begrudgingly) and Shadow craft.. I am mainly using shadowcraft, although I was dubious about some of the early versions reccomendations, as it seemed to conflict with the general conseneus among rogues I know. Although, now we are a few weeks in and better geared it seems to be pretty darn accurate for me anyway. It seemed it just appeared off when we first got the new talents etc at lvl 90 up to around 630 ivl. Seems A-Okay now though :) So a big thank you ! to those of you involved in it :) x
  2. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Indz,(or anyone that knows) I pulled the source code from the repos, and noticed there was some files called "Shadowcraft Mage".. Is anyone actively workign on this ? and if not, is there anythign like it for mages ?   Thanks for your time..
  3. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    Thanks Indz :) You are a star!
  4. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    SC is not working again :( the back end ifailing to load, I tried severla browsers and none worked, al lsamea error..:(
  5. Crafting

    Yeah, I didnt do much tbh, I mainly wanted to see as much of the zones as possible and experience the world and quests..I did pick lots of herbs/plants and made quite a pots I also collected wood but never made anythign with it.. 
  6. Classes

    Hey,        I tried one character in each faction, I made a nord Templar and was dual weild, but then went 2 handed, I made a high elf Nightblade which was dual weild and then lastly I made a  Dragon knight.. I enjoyed all of them tbh..I got less time on Dragon knight than the others playing it for only about 2 hours..I did try briefly both DW and 2H weapon styles for them all, but mostly ended up with DW as I found 2H to be a little slow, but maybe that was just me..
  7. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    thanks Indz.. I got distracted and didnt look at the code yet, I did pull it to my svn though.. I still will look at it just for curiousitys sake.:)
  8. ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

    same as above, was now downloading the souce code and was gonna try and build it..I dont know Ruby though, just C\C++.. Oh well I just grabbed the source onto my SVN.. Will take a look at it and see if I can get it going.lol