Exemplar, have you noticed when your CS is ~ 3 seconds due to haste that you are still waiting for a CS every time you do CS - Filler - CS?
It seems like even when my filler is not a spell my GCD is shorter. Is anyone else seeing this?
It feels this way, yes. Especially staring at CLCRet (haven't swapped to CLCInfo, yet). However, when I look away from CLCRet I find it only feels this way because things are still on the GCD. I certainly feel "ZOMG, why do I have .3 seconds to next ability", then see "Oh, GCD has .3 seconds to go." Chalk it up to the human experience of the duration of time. Or GCD are lasting more than 1.5 seconds at times, which would suck.
this + plus the changes to 2p T9 make me wonder if 2p 277 T10 + 2p 258 T9 is superior to 4p 277 T10.
No. Stat loss from iLevel 258 is major loss. Also, since Censure appears to be getting buffed, 10% more becomes that much better.
Does your spreadsheet provide information about how often our primary skills are used in a simulated static fight using the actual preferred priority chain (frequencies for CS, TV, Exo, â€¦)? The logs i've seen so far are very variable.
I'm hesitant to release hard information on this, since spreadsheet is still under revision, gear impacts (I currently don't have time to keep swapping gear and comparing), and Blizzard is changing stuff on us. However, as a single data point, in order of quantity
used in a 5 minute Patchwerk style fight with zero mastery: CS, TV, Exo, Judge, HW, HoW, Cons. In action I'm losing some Exo, but just realized I may have CLCRet set to J > Exo, which would be my mistake and be a reason I seem to lose some AoW procs (timer runs out before I get to Exo).
Could you please add an author acknowledgement in your post, since your layout loots very much like Consider two DK threads ( http://elitistjerks....trongest_flame/). IF this is entirely coincidental you can in that case ignore this.
Layout stolen from Arikah's old thread, FRMorrison's Holy thread, Consider's Frost and Unholy threads. I am the author, I cannot acknowledge my own writing as someone else's. Listing all contributors in the post will A) take too much space and
take too much time to keep updated - re-read the second paragraph. Every Ret who posts on EJ forums and a fair number of folks of other classes and specs have greatly contributed to this information. We're standing on the shoulders of giants.
@moonsond - weapon comparisons are gear dependent. For instance, Glorenzelg isn't that great if you cannot reforge away enough Expertise, but if you do need the Expertise, it's probably gangbusters. Until Rawr, Redcape, or my spreadsheet are ready for 4.0, we cannot accurately answer these questions.Rebuke
Can someone do a clean Rebuke test for me? Turn on SoT. Set up a "/cast Rebuke /stopattack" macro. Use it a single time. Swap to SoR, wait 10 seconds, use macro once. Screenshot, WoL the log, or upload the text file somewhere. Determining what procs what is a mess. I looked at our log from last night and I'm seeing SoC procs a full second after autoattacks and abilities (including Rebuke), so it's hard to tell what caused what. I want 100% certainty of what it does/does not proc.Avenging Wrath and Zealotry
Nalien has pointed out to me a silly error in this. My combined macro (and guide) was to pop both together. This means you lose 1.5 sec of AW to the GCD from Zealotry. Obviously not good. Updated macro (castsequence) in OP to address. This also prevents issues where you hit the macro at less than 3 HP (like I did twice last night).
Regarding HoW during AW... out to lunch. Need the new coefficients on HoW and exactly how much TV has been buffed (somewhere near 250-260% at 3HP, per earlier poster), along with buffs to seals (which would proc from TV). If HoW pulls ahead, then unlinking the cooldowns will be the way to go.