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#61 Effinhunter

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:18 PM

I discussed this at MMO-Champions several weeks ago when we were talking about the BiS list.

What other hunters have said is that they do believe there is a Heroic version of this as it is in Boss loot tables and it should eventually come up on the BMAH. However, no one has seen the Heroic TF version. I asked for any kind of confirmation that it does not exist, and I have not received any credible source from a blue or anything resembling an official channel. Right now, all I've heard is that certain tools that look at BMAH haven't seen it.

Quick look at a BiS list - Page 8

All that being said, I do plan on messing with configurations soon without it or Ra-den loot to give a better indication to hunters in guilds that are unlikely to clear all of heroic (especially Ra-den, who I'm just not sure will be regularly cleared by a significant portion of the hunter population) and target only loot that is not super rare--like the Terra-cotta

#62 Effinhunter

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

Replacing the HTF Terra-cotta with the Meg Brooch because we're unsure if the HTF Terra-cotta will exist. Hit was reforged into crit/haste wherever possible, but we're still at a surplus of over 300. I tried modeling the Simcraft BiS, but it was less dps in FD (not that that means anything, really). The differences between the profiles from Simc and current FD are less than 3k dps.

5.3 PTR BM HTF

220,244.38 dps

HTF Terra-Cotta -> Meg Brooch (assuming HTF Terra-Cotta does not exist)
Reforge on chest to haste.

5.3 PTR SV HTF

209,655.71 dps

This one went up after replacing the Ra-den belt with HTF Links of the Disintegrator with 3 pure agi gems. This is slightly more agi than the Ra-den belt and the haste and crit benefit the profile more, but we're talking a dps difference of only 200 in the profile.

5.3 PTR MM HTF

205,916.93 dps

HTF Terra-Cotta -> Meg Brooch (assuming HTF Terra-Cotta does not exist)
Reforge on chest to haste.

--------------- No Ra-den or Lei Shen loot -------------

Another interesting set of profiles are those that do not require Ra-den loot (as this boss requires Lei Shen, who seems highly tuned and consequently the Ra-den loot table may not be accessible to most hunters before next tier). Another interesting point about this gear profile is that it is rather accessible in heroics.

5.3 PTR BM HTF (no Ra-den loot)

219,250.93 dps

Jingling Fetish -> HTF Links of the Disintegrator
Treads of the Sanguine Volley -> HTF Quakestompers
Ra'Dens Swift Seal -> HTF Seal of the Bloodied God
Reforged chest to haste

Reforges to gain back hit (Voice of the Quillen and the Meg Brooch)

5.3 PTR SV HTF (no Ra-den loot)

208,487.34 dps

Treads of the Sanguine Volley -> HTF Quakestompers
Ra'Dens Swift Seal -> HTF Seal of the Bloodied God

Reforges to gain back hit (Voice of the Quillen and the Meg Brooch)

5.3 PTR MM HTF (no Ra-den loot)

205,480.82 dps

Jingling Fetish -> HTF Links of the Disintegrator
Treads of the Sanguine Volley -> HTF Quakestompers
Ra'Dens Swift Seal -> HTF Seal of the Bloodied God

Reforges to gain back hit (Voice of the Quillen and the Meg Brooch)

What's really curious about these latter profiles is that the gear is easier to get. If you want to prioritize your rolls, here's a gear listing per boss:

Jin'Rokh: 2 (ring, trinket)
Council: 3 (head, gloves, trinket)
Tortos: 2 (bracers, shoes)
Megaera: 1 (neck)
Ji'kun: 1 (legs)
Durumu: 1 (belt)
Dark Animus: 2 (chest, ring)
Iron Qon: 2 (shoulders, ranged)

For coin roll priority, Council > Iron Qon
Jin'Rokh
Dark Animus
Tortos > Durumu
Tortos, assuming 0 current HTF loot from the list, of course.

Now, for the moderately good news. Out of current progression, here is the breakdown of progression boss kills in Heroic Throne of Thunder (source Wowprogress.com):

H: Jin'rokh the Breaker 3286 (14.77%) (2 in set)
H: Horridon 1095 (4.92%) (0 in set)
H: Council of Elders 378 (1.70%) (3 in set)
H: Tortos 907 (4.08%) (2 in set)
H: Megaera 371 (1.67%) (1 in set)
H: Ji-Kun 1533 (6.89%) (1 in set)
H: Durumu the Forgotten 170 (0.76%) (1 in set)
H: Primordius 201 (0.90%) (0 in set)
H: Dark Animus 79 (0.36%) (2 in set)
H: Iron Qon 477 (2.14%) (2 in set)
H: Twin Consorts 115 (0.52%) (0 in set)
H: Lei Shen 19 (0.09%) (0 in set)
H: Ra-den 8 (0.04%) (0 in set)

So, this list has only 3 pieces that are from bosses that are killed by less than 1% of current guilds, but I expect these percentages of kills of Durumu and Dark Animus will rise much faster than the Lei Shen and Ra-Den kills after 5.3.

#63 NoGoal

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:10 AM

DPS values you give don't match profiles you linked (anymore?).

#64 Effinhunter

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:08 PM

The spreadsheet does not appear to save the Setting "Enable Public Test Realm Changes" anymore. You will have to manually check that box to see the 5.3 settings.

#65 Effinhunter

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:00 PM

Rivkah's spreadsheet currently doesn't allow upgrades on the Beady-eye Bracers or the Tigerfang Wrap, so I'll update this post later to reflect upgrading bracers and cloak when the changes are applied to the spreadsheet. Below are what I've been able to model so far for 5.3 content.

BM H Thunderforged 5.3:

236,748.73 dps

Changes:

2 agi/hit gems -> 160 agi gems
Upgrades on all gear (waiting for bracer/cloak changes to spreadsheet)
AMoC -> Blink Strikes

BM H Thunderforged 5.3 (no Ra-den/H Lei Shen):

234,257.70 dps

Changes:

Upgrades on all gear (waiting for bracer/cloak changes to spreadsheet)
AMoC -> Blink Strikes

SV H Thunderforged 5.3:

226,570.87 dps

Changes:

Upgrades on all gear (waiting for bracer/cloak changes to spreadsheet)

SV H Thunderforged 5.3 (no Ra-den/H Lei Shen):

225,195.19 dps

Changes:

Upgrades on all gear (waiting for bracer/cloak changes to spreadsheet)

MM H Thunderforged 5.3:

223,821.97 dps

Changes:

2 agi/hit gems -> 160 agi gems
Upgrades on all gear (waiting for bracer/cloak changes to spreadsheet)

MM H Thunderforged 5.3 (No Ra-den/H Lei Shen):

223,417.33 dps

Changes:

Upgrades on all gear (waiting for bracer/cloak changes to spreadsheet)

NORMAL MODES

BM N Thunderforged 5.3

202,131.78

Simc Gear Profile:

head=gaze_of_garajal,id=96044,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=capacitive_primal_120exp_120mastery_180agi
neck=quadrahead_brooch,id=96071,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=160agi
shoulder=saurok_stalkers_spaulders,id=95259,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,gems=160agi_80agi_160haste_120haste,enchant=200agi_100crit
back=tigerfang_wrap,id=98148,gems=160agi_60agi,enchant=180crit
chest=saurok_stalkers_tunic,id=95255,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=exp_haste,gems=160agi_120exp_120mastery_80agi_160hit_180agi,enchant=80agi_80sta
wrist=beady_eye_bracers_haste,id=96053,suffix=340,gems=80agi_160haste_60agi,enchant=500agi
hand=saurok_stalkers_gloves,id=95256,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=exp_haste,gems=160agi_60agi,enchant=170haste
waist=links_of_the_disintegrator,id=96102,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi_80agi_160haste_160agi_120haste
legs=saurok_stalkers_legguards,id=95258,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,gems=80agi_160haste_80agi_160hit_120agi,enchant=285agi_165crit
feet=quakestompers,id=96054,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi,enchant=140agi
ring1=goresoaked_gear,id=96141,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi,enchant=160agi
ring2=sign_of_the_bloodied_god,id=95996,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=160agi
trinket1=bad_juju,id=96037,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_haste
trinket2=renatakis_soul_charm,id=95997,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=exp_mastery
main_hand=voice_of_the_quilen,id=96153,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi_160agi_60agi,enchant=lord_blastingtons_scope_of_doom

SV N Thunderforged 5.3

196,155.39 dps

Simc Gear Profile:

head=gaze_of_garajal,id=96044,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=capacitive_primal_80agi_160crit_180agi
neck=quadrahead_brooch,id=96071,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,gems=160agi
shoulder=saurok_stalkers_spaulders,id=95259,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,gems=160agi_160agi,enchant=200agi_100crit
back=tigerfang_wrap,id=98148,gems=160agi_60agi,enchant=180crit
chest=saurok_stalkers_tunic,id=95255,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=exp_crit,gems=160agi_80agi_160crit_80agi_160hit_180agi,enchant=80agi_80sta
wrist=beady_eye_bracers_crit,id=96053,suffix=336,gems=80agi_160crit_60agi,enchant=500agi
hand=saurok_stalkers_gloves,id=95256,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=exp_haste,gems=160agi_60agi,enchant=170exp
waist=links_of_the_disintegrator,id=96102,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi_160agi_160agi
legs=saurok_stalkers_legguards,id=95258,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,gems=80agi_160crit_80agi_160hit_120agi,enchant=285agi_165crit
feet=quakestompers,id=96054,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi,enchant=140agi
ring1=sign_of_the_bloodied_god,id=95996,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=160agi
ring2=goresoaked_gear,id=96141,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi,enchant=160agi
trinket1=bad_juju,id=96037,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit
trinket2=renatakis_soul_charm,id=95997,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=exp_crit
main_hand=voice_of_the_quilen,id=96153,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=haste_crit,gems=160agi_160agi_60agi,enchant=lord_blastingtons_scope_of_doom

MM N Thunderforged 5.3

192,073.86

Simc Gear Profile:

head=gaze_of_garajal,id=96044,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=capacitive_primal_120exp_120mastery_180agi
neck=quadrahead_brooch,id=96071,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=160agi
shoulder=saurok_stalkers_spaulders,id=95259,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,gems=160agi_80agi_160haste_120haste,enchant=200agi_100crit
back=tigerfang_wrap,id=98148,gems=160agi_60agi,enchant=180crit
chest=saurok_stalkers_tunic,id=95255,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=exp_haste,gems=160agi_120exp_120mastery_80agi_160hit_180agi,enchant=80agi_80sta
wrist=beady_eye_bracers_haste,id=96053,suffix=340,gems=80agi_160haste_60agi,enchant=500agi
hand=saurok_stalkers_gloves,id=95256,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=exp_haste,gems=160agi_60agi,enchant=170haste
waist=links_of_the_disintegrator,id=96102,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi_80agi_160haste_160agi_120haste
legs=saurok_stalkers_legguards,id=95258,upgrade=2,ilevel=530,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,gems=80agi_160haste_80agi_160hit_120agi,enchant=285agi_165crit
feet=quakestompers,id=96054,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi,enchant=140agi
ring1=goresoaked_gear,id=96141,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi,enchant=160agi
ring2=sign_of_the_bloodied_god,id=95996,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=160agi
trinket1=bad_juju,id=96037,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=mastery_haste
trinket2=renatakis_soul_charm,id=95997,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,reforge=exp_mastery
main_hand=voice_of_the_quilen,id=96153,upgrade=2,ilevel=536,quality=epic,gems=160agi_160agi_60agi,enchant=lord_blastingtons_scope_of_doom

Analysis:

Stat priorities:

BM : haste > crit > mastery
SV : crit > haste > mastery
MM : haste > crit > mastery

SV loses a bit of dps when switching from an optimal BM profile to SV without reforging. For the BiS profile for BM Thunderforged above, this results in the following SV profile without a reforge to crit > haste > mastery (roughly 1.1k dps):

SV Thunderforged dps (From BM Haste Profile): 225,493.86 dps

About the normal mode profiles: these may not actually be BiS and are meant to be a reference for people gearing up in normal mode content. I've included the Tigerwrap Cloak because it is available to normal mode raiders (in fact, you can get runestones from the last 6 bosses in LFR). I do not use the Necklace of Terracotta, but in previous profiles, I was able to tweak gear to gain some dps with Terracotta profiles, so I may try those again.

I'll update each profile as the upgrades become available for bracer/cloak in the spreadsheet.

#66 Namarus

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:26 PM

I've tried looking around online with no luck, so I thought I would ask here.

Does anyone have a BiS dps list for challenge modes or the new proving grounds?




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