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#41 Kyuki

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 02:29 PM

Currently running a crap setup with a single core CPU (AMD Athlon 3500+) with a 20" screen running 1680x1050 resolution, and as I've understood it I can't record in full size at that resolution, so FRAPS automatically records in half size. My problem here is that the created raw file is extremly blurry and it's very hard to make something out of it. I've tried to encode it so that it's encoded the raw fotage for half the resolution I'm using ingame with little succes still beeing very blurry (same shit). FPS is not a problem btw, it's just the raw fotage that look crap.

Is my only option to run fraps with a lower resolution ingame to avoid getting blurry raw fotage or is there some way around this? I've been twisting my head around this trying to figure it out, but right now it simply feels i'm limited by my hardware, but still want to know for sure. Any help about this is greatly appreciated :)

Sorry for derailing this thread, but I feel this doesnt really deserve a topic of it's own and the OP solved his mystery already :P

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 02:33 PM

I remember that I once had some strange drivers co-installed by my nVidia graphic drivers that caused all my fraps raw videos to be extremely blurry if I played them through Windows Media Player. Playing it in VLC or another player did not exhibit this strange behaviour and uninstalling those unneeded nVidia drivers (image quality something) fixed it.

If it is this, you can fix it easily. Of course some blurryness remains from the downscaling, but it shouldn't be very bad.

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 02:47 PM

I've recently formated, and installed the 'latest' nVidia graphic drivers for my GF6600 Cards (No I'm not running SLI when I'm Recording).

I can't really find anything that I could remove that would be called image quality something :P, thanks though.

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 04:42 PM

When I record a video with Fraps my system freezes for 5 seconds everytime Fraps writes a new file to my harddrive, which happens every 4 minutes since Fraps seems to split the video in chunks of 4GB. Does anyone have a solution to this?

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 04:02 PM

Is your HD formatted to FAT32 or is the file splitting a "feature" of fraps?

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 04:15 PM

It's a limit of the AVI-container actually. There's a variant or extension that allows avi files to be larger than 4GB but that's not standard and fraps simply can't do it at this point. See also: AVI File Size Limits - Luke's Video Guide

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 05:00 PM

Taksi: Video capture/Screen capture for 3D applications Might be able to.

#48 HENNESSY

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 06:03 PM

Taksi: Video capture/Screen capture for 3D applications Might be able to.


Taksi doesn't do audio, unfortunately.

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 01:57 PM

Most performance loss might be suffered due to 'bad' drivers. Remember, latest drivers doesn't mean they are best.

You might want to look 3dguru.com forums or similar sites for more detailed info.

There might be many bottlenecks, poor motherboard, HDD, system and bios setup and many others too.

Just to compare

stock E6600
1gb ram
8600GT
7200 RPM 160GB HDD
1680*1080 fraps recording without AA and AF in game at max details had stable 30 FPS+
Win XP 32bit and good drivers.

and my home PC

Athlon 2500+@262x11 (2772mhz) running 2x 512MB 2-2-2-11-1T fsb/ram ratio 1:1
GF4Ti 64MB
7200 RPM 80GB HDD
Win XP 32bit
1024*768 in game (But i think fraps was cuting to 800*600), lowest details , no AF/AA stable 20 FPS+

On above PC happened to me to record thaddius with 3-4 FPS during whole encounter becouse i've been using best available counter-strike drivers for GF4Ti. Havent had problems with playing though :dance:

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 11:59 PM

I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar problems with this:

Before upgrading my hard-drive I was tight on space, and I was recording a movie for factual reasons more than for releasing it. So I switched fraps to half-resolution mode. Since upgrading my hard-drive it doesn't matter how much I play with the fraps setting, it still records at half-res. I've tried pretty much everything short of wiping fraps completely off my hdd and starting over.

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:20 PM

Read fraps documentation.

Single cores cant record in resolution higher than 800*600 if i remember right.
So if you have gem res above 800*600 but lower than 1600*1200 it will record half-size 640*480. Solution is either to play 800*600 and record full size or 1600*1200 half-size

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 04:16 PM

Read fraps documentation.

Single cores cant record in resolution higher than 800*600 if i remember right.
So if you have gem res above 800*600 but lower than 1600*1200 it will record half-size 640*480. Solution is either to play 800*600 and record full size or 1600*1200 half-size


In lates version, you can record with higher resolutions.

FRAPS show fps, record video game movies, screen capture software

2.9.4 - 14th Jan 2008
- Added 64-bit Fraps FPS1 codec
- Added support for resolutions up to 2560x1600 on single core CPUs
- Fixed crash when recording with sound under Vista SP1
- Fixed D3D9 recording speed on x64 versions of Windows
- Fixed Windows start bug when Fraps installed in a folder with a space in the name
- Improved compatibility with 3rd party graphic utilities

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:08 PM

I am planning to start using fraps soon and have 1 question. I have an old IDE 110gb drive laying around. Should I install that and have fraps write to that drive instead of my main? (even tho my main is sata)

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:32 PM

I've got a quick question about WoW and Fraps .

I play on a 1680x1050 resolution , but fraps seems to have low FPS.

But i was wondering if this is due my proccesor (2.2ghz dual core amd) or my graphics card? (8800 GTS).
I'm pretty sure its not my hard disc as any SATA disc should be good enough.
Anybody have any idea where the problem could lie?

Thanks in Advance!

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 06:38 AM

I'm not sure which of those two would be more of a bottleneck (although I'm guessing the processor, considering WoW itself is also so CPU heavy, thrown ontop of the encoding and saving to drive). However keep in mind that recording using fraps is simply very resource hungry. Dont expect anything close to what you would normally get if you werent recording.

For example, I have a Core2Duo 3.0GHz, 4gig ram, 9800GX2 and I fraps at 10-15 FPS in a raid (1680x1050, fullscreen). I fraps at around 30 out in the wilderness of Terrokar forest. I run wow at medium-ish settings. I get around 40-50 fps in Shat, and around 150 fps in the middle of nowhere. A small 5 man group runs at around 80 fps, and a raid while in combat is around 25, depending on the encounter.

I'm sorry I cant give you any direct tips, but I'm trying to say "dont expect too much" basically.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 07:27 AM

Ah i see , thanks for the explaination.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:09 AM

I've got a quick question about WoW and Fraps .

I play on a 1680x1050 resolution , but fraps seems to have low FPS.

But i was wondering if this is due my proccesor (2.2ghz dual core amd) or my graphics card? (8800 GTS).
I'm pretty sure its not my hard disc as any SATA disc should be good enough.
Anybody have any idea where the problem could lie?

Thanks in Advance!


Not-that-exact method, but it generally works, you can change your resolution incrementally, from 1680x1050 down to 640x480, if your fps rises in linear way, blame your graphics card, otherwise CPU.

#58 Miioua

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:01 PM

Hi,

I'm using FRAPS since a while.
Here is my config :
Intel E8200
4Gb RAM OCZ
8800GTS320
Vista 64
HD 1, Partition 1 : OS
HD 1, Partition 2 : Destination of FRAPS VIDEO
HD 2, Partition 1 : WOW files

I configured FRAPS to record in 1680x1050 at 25image/s because :
- It's normal rate for video
- Kill a Boss takes 10 minutes (maximum before rage) and around 10-15Gb on Hard drive : More FPS = more space = more speed on Hard drive

After this, I use Avisynth + Virtual Dub + LAME (ACM) to re-compress the video.

Here are few results of my "work":
Nova Pixel VS Hydross - Fight on Vimeo
Nova Pixel@MDZ VS Jan'Alai on Vimeo
Nova Pixel@MDZ VS A'LAR on Vimeo

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 09:25 AM

When using two-pass encoding with XviD, should you overwrite the first pass on the second pass or save it as a seperate file?

#60 Shalas

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Posted 19 July 2008 - 11:19 PM

The output avi from the first pass isn't used at any point. If you're using xvid_encraw.exe you can save a small amount of time by not generating it at all, and with the VFW interface it's safe to overwrite.




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