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#1 Vespasian

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:13 PM

Updated 17th September, 2009

Current Best-in-Slot set up for Enhancement Shaman by Vespasian of <Audacity>, Blackrock US

Please consult the introductory post below before posting on this thread.


[TABLE]Current max potential DPS:
~9449[/TABLE]

[TABLE]Rawr Sheet:
Current BiS Rawr Sheet[/TABLE]

Gear List:
Patch 3.2 introduced a new itemisation system for raids:
1) Faction specific items: these items can only be obtained by one faction or the other however these items always have a corresponding horde/alliance item with identical stats. It’s the same item with a different name/graphic e.g is the horde version of the alliance’s .

The following list is for Horde items. Alliance players will have no difficulty in finding the corresponding alliance item using Wowhead or MMO-Champion.

[TABLE]Slot|Item|Gem 1|Gem 2|Gem 3|Enchant|
Head||||-|
Neck|||-|-|-|
Shoulders|||-|-|
Back|Sylvanas' Cunning||-|-|
Chest|||||
Wrist|||-|-|Fur Lining- Attack Power*
Hands|||-|-|Enchant Gloves- Crusher
Waist|Waistguard of Deathly Dominion||||
Legs||||-|
Feet||||-|**
Finger|||-|-|Enchant Ring- Assault*
Finger|||-|-|Enchant Ring- Assault*
Trinket||-|-|-|-
Trinket||-|-|-|-
Main Hand|Cudgel of the Damned||-|-|
Off-hand|Cudgel of the Damned||-|-|
Relic|***|-|-|-|-
[/TABLE]
*Enchanting and Leatherworking were selected at random from the pool of professions that provide the generic +80 AP. Equivalent profession enhancements will yeild similar results.
**In 10 minute encounters, run speed enchants provide superior DPS when you are running between targets for more than 16.5 seconds
*** is the superior totem on encounters where you are casting Chain Lightning frequently.

Glyph set-up
[TABLE]1)|
2)|
3)|[/TABLE]

Ability priority order
[TABLE]1)|Spirit Wolves
2)|Maelstrom Weapon x 5 stacks- Lighting Bolt
3)|Earthshock if Storm Strike debuff is on target
4)|Storm Strike
5)|Earthshock
6)|Magma Totem
7)|Lightning Shield
8)|Lava Lash
9)|Maelstrom Weapon x 3 stacks- Lightning Bolt
10)|Maelstrom Weapon x 4 stacks- Lighting Bolt[/TABLE]

[TABLE]Talent spec
Current max DPS talent spec[/TABLE]

Enhsim config:
### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    1
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       4000
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         11
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              SW
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              ES_SS
rotation_priority5              SS
rotation_priority6              ES
rotation_priority7              MT
rotation_priority8              LS
rotation_priority9              LL
rotation_priority10             MW3_LB
rotation_priority11             MW4_LB

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          687/687
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          216.5
oh_dps                          216.5
mh_crit                         41.81
oh_crit                         41.81
mh_hit                          12.26
oh_hit                          12.26
mh_expertise_rating             128
oh_expertise_rating             128
ap                              5444
melee_haste                     21.61
armor_penetration               22.90
str                             151
agi                             1339
int                             742
spi                             171
spellpower                      1633
spell_crit                      29.48
spell_hit                       15.32
spell_haste                     16.62
max_mana                        15246
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        45609
trinket2                        47464

totem                           47666

set_bonus1                      t9_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41285

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                1/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   4/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5


DPS report:
EnhSim version 1.8.3.3

................................................................................

MH:
miss                1245542        8.74%
dodge               47927          0.34%
glancing            3419204        23.99%
hit                 1052161        7.38%
crit                8487834        59.55%
average ap          8502.19        
clip                512044         3.47%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.89%
procs/swings        13.70%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               15240          0.34%
hit                 1665460        37.35%
crit                2778584        62.31%
average ap          8502.48        

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               6947           0.34%
hit                 754077         37.23%
crit                1264232        62.42%
average ap          8487.50        

OH:
miss                1245009        8.74%
dodge               48398          0.34%
glancing            3420158        24.00%
hit                 1040644        7.30%
crit                8498458        59.63%
average ap          8518.81        
clip                512045         3.47%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9739403        56.32%
crit                7553605        43.68%
average sp          3154.25        

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               6829           0.34%
hit                 749999         37.16%
crit                1261481        62.50%
average ap          8512.71        

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1687959        56.29%
crit                1310906        43.71%
average sp          3152.80        

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               7879           0.34%
hit                 868291         37.26%
crit                1453977        62.40%
average ap          8507.90        

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1981172        56.35%
crit                1534666        43.65%
average sp          3152.57        

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3846210        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%
average sp          3156.22        

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2149086        24.04%
hit                 5761452        64.46%
crit                1027814        11.50%
average ap          8514.59        

Magma Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4675728        56.33%
crit                3625517        43.67%
average sp          3153.26        

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 53.05

flurry uptime                  98.20%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   86.19%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              42.13%
oh enchant uptime              36.81%
trinket1 uptime                20.70%
trinket2 uptime                32.50%
totem uptime                   86.99%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 17.99     7.16%
replenishment       45.09     17.94%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 8.93      3.55%
shamanistic rage    179.33    71.35%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               3116.58   32.98%    95.02
windfury            1137.38   12.04%    7.43
flametongue         676.23    7.16%     57.64
stormstrike         498.95    5.28%     6.75      37.19     14.05%
lava lash           383.36    4.06%     7.77      21.40     8.08%
magma totem         607.75    6.43%     2.82      52.35     19.78%
earth shock         975.86    10.33%    10.00     64.60     24.40%
lightning bolt      1320.28   13.97%    11.72     85.86     32.44%
lightning shield    394.33    4.17%     1.55      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       339.20    3.59%     0.40      3.31      1.25%

DPS                 9449.93
MPS                 264.71
MP2min              31765.64
MRPS                265.44
Out of mana time    0.07%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 37.00s
simulation speed: 486486x


#2 Vespasian

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:14 PM

Updated 14th Sep, 2009.

If you wish to contribute to this thread, please read the following before posting.


This is a discussion thread relating to the optimal gear, enchant, gem, glyph set up, talent spec and ability priority order for raiding Enhancement Shaman. Its aim is to consistently define the single highest DPS set up available to Shaman at the present time.

It is not the aim of this thread to:
1) Give you an introduction to Shaman, Shaman abilities, Shaman stats or anything else. This thread assumes a high level of understanding if Shaman mechanics and gearing. If you are starting out, please visit the Enhancement Shaman Theorycrafting Think Tank authored by Malan: http://elitistjerks....an_enhancement/
2) Facilitate discussion that is not based on hard Enhsim data. If you do not have data to support your assertions, then there are likely other discussion threads you can post on that would be more suitable.

How is Best-in-Slot (BiS) set-up defined?

Given the volatile nature of Enhancement Shaman stats, defining a ‘best item for X slot’ is pointless. A new set of gloves that increases your haste by (X) amount and reduces your crit by (X-5) can often result in a DPS decrease due to the complex relationship between attack speed, the 3 second WF cooldown and the GCD. Similarly, evaluating gear with Armour Penetration is notoriously difficult given ArP’s exponential scaling against armour (the more ArP you have, the better it gets) measured against the fact that ArP does nothing for a Shaman’s spells.

In light of these complexities, it is better for Shaman to find an ideal combination of gear, gems and enchants that provides the highest potential DPS when used in conjunction with a certain talent spec, glyph set-up and ability priority order (survivability [e.g. HP and dmg mitigation abilities] can and should not feature into this discussion since its DPS value cannot be definitively quantified).

How is ‘highest potential dps’ defined?
For the purposes of this exercise, ‘highest potential dps’ is defined as the maximum possible DPS achievable within the current version Enhsim DPS simulator created Turkez (EnhSim - Home and kindly updated by a number of Enh Theorycrafting luminaries).

It is important to understand the limitations of simulation. Simulation offers a glimpse of character performance under perfect conditions- set latency, no human reaction delay, no system lag, a perfect rotation on a stationary target for thousands of hours. Your actual results will vary greatly from what you observe in the sim, but the sim will give you a clear indication of maximum DPS potential.

Methodology
In order to define the BiS set for Enhancement Shaman, we will rely on both Paperdoll sheets generated through Rawr (Rawr - Home) and the DPS output reports generated through Enhsim. Both the Paperdoll sheets and the Enhsim configs must adhere to strict guidelines so that we can arrive at ‘pure’ data sets.

What are the variables?
The following is a list of variables that can be manipulated in trying to define a BiS list.

Gear- all gear that can currently be equipped by an Enhancement Shaman
Gems- all gems that can currently be equipped by an Enhancement Shaman with the exception of the JC gems since they are currently imbalanced and will soon be corrected in 3.2.
Enchants- . All enchants currently available to an enhancement shaman are permitted including the enchanting-only ring enchants as enchanting is one of the two chosen professions for use in this exercise (the other being LW- more on that below)
Talents- any combination of talents currently available to an Enhancement Shaman with the exception of 'Enhancing Totems' and Improved Windfury Totem'. These talents must be maxxed out. Please read below.
Glyphs- Any Glyph currently available to an Enhancement Shaman.
Ability priority order- this is the order in which a Shaman prioritizes their attacks as they become available to them. Enhsim supports this function under the ‘Rotations and Misc’ tab. Any priority order currently available to the Shaman can be included in this discussion

Static variables
The following is a list of variables that cannot be manipulated when trying to define a BiS list. Manipulating these variables will result in inconsistent data or data that is not applicable to certain races. More below.

Race: The shaman must be a Tauren. Tauren was selected as their racials provide no benefits to DPS (Troll Berserk, Orc Command etc) or to stats (Draenei hit, Orc expertise). Any benefits that other races derive as result of their racials is free DPS over and above the benchmark minimum set down by Taurens. As we go forward, there is no reason that separate BiS lists can't be generated for Draenei and Orcs if it becomes evident that a different BiS set up is possible for them. For now though, it would be best to limit as many variables as possible.
Talents: 'Enhancing Totems' and 'Improved Windfury Totem' must both be maxxed out. It is fair to assume that the Enh Shaman is the only person providing these buffs to the raid. All other talents are available for use/non-use.
Professions: Professions must be Leatherworking and Enchanting. Since most professions provide a generic 64 AP bonus currently (to be buffed across the board in 3.2), 2 professions were chosen in line with this- Leatherworking and Enchanting. There was no particular reason that they were selected. Obviously Skinning provides a unique bonus (32 crit rating) but it is a statistical outlier and was excluded from this test.
Combat duration: Combat duration must be 10 mins. 10mins was chosen as it is the length of the best available DPS check fight in the game at the moment, Heroic XT-002 Hard Mode. Going into 3.2, it might be prudent to revise this combat duration limitation depending on the nature and duration of 3.2 encounters.
Mana simulation: You must simulate mana.
Latency: Lag must be set at 50-60. This is the average US ping. It does not account for the delay inherent in human reaction times, but we are interested first and foremost in potential, not actual.
Simulation time: This must be set to 5000 hours.
Raid buffs: The Shaman must be fully raid buffed as most raiders will run fully buffed.

How do I contribute to this thread?
1) Generate a paperdoll sheet using Rawr
2) Export the data from Rawr to Enhsim (there is an option in the Rawr to do so, as well as an option in Enhsim (‘Copy from Clipboard’)
3) Ensure that settings corresponding with the above listed static variables
4) Run the sim 5-10 times and record your results.
5) If your results are more than 5 DPS over the current DPS range listed on this forum, post your results here. Please include an uploaded Rawr sheet, a copy of your config and a copy of the DPS report. Also, please note any changes you have made between the Rawr sheet and the config (e.g manually added stats for Dark Matter as it was not present in Rawr but was present in Enhsim etc)

If you have suggestions for refining the methodology, please feel free to suggest them.

The OP will be maintained to always show the highest known DPS sim combination at any point in time.

Vespasian, <Audacity> Blackrock US

#3 Deathicle

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:21 PM

Looking at the Belt of Dragons and its +12 ap socket bonus, you would be better off putting a in the blue socket - even assuming that you have access to prismatic gems. 6 to all stats comes out to 19.6-20.26 ap with kings/Ancestral Knowledge. Essentially the AP bonus is the same as having a 32 ap gem in its place, with the added benefit of additional melee and spell crit, and some extra stamina to boot. Presumably, you are less likely to upgrade that belt with initial 3.2 gear where as most people will immediately try to upgrade their class specific gear sets.

All in all, that is a very good list!

Edit: Wouldn't sim out better than , especially in light of the fact that you gain 3 extra 32 ap gem sockets?

#4 Vespasian

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:36 PM

You can only equip one enchanted tear, and under this set-up the tear is present in the legs. I dont think we need to concern ourselves with how gemming choices might be influenced by future upgrades.

As for Solar Binding I am not sure. If you can demonstrate a set-up that provides superior dps using this item then I would love to see the it.

#5 Falcon213

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 05:08 PM

While 32 AP boot enchant will sim the highest, it has been determined for some time that a runspeed enchant is better. See TTT.

#6 Rouncer

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 05:18 PM

While 32 AP boot enchant will sim the highest, it has been determined for some time that a runspeed enchant is better. See TTT.



32 AP isn't the highest anyway since, even past the spell hit cap, Icewalker is more dps. He used 32 AP because he was trying to stay just over the spell hit cap, forgetting that hit still has a lot of value past that cap all the way up to the dual wield hit cap. My latest runs put hit past the cap at ~1.5EP which means Icewalker is worth ~41EP.

#7 zoombini

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:03 PM

Is there any point to assembling the same list with 10-man only available gear? I know that there are many people (including myself) who are committed, successful 10-man raiders who for various reasons don't do 25 mans.

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:19 PM

Since we're talking about maximum theoretical DPS, I'll share this slightly improbable ability priority. I started tinkering with this while thinking about MW procs being our most valuable commodity. The easiest way to gain more, is to spend more, thus spending less time with 5 unspent stacks of MW. I've changed nothing from the config provided in the first post but the ability priority and attained 7377-7379 DPS.

Note: In practice using MW3 on CL instead of waiting for MW4-5 costs a prohibitive amount of mana and is difficult to time effectively.
Ability priority order
1) SW
2) MWx5_LB
3) SS
4) ES
5) MT
6) LS
7) MW3_CL
8) MW4_LB
9) LL

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    1
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         10
rotation_priority1              SW
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              ES
rotation_priority5              MT
rotation_priority6              LS
rotation_priority7              MW3_CL
rotation_priority8              MW4_LB
rotation_priority9              LL
rotation_priority10             SR

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          685/685
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.7
oh_speed                        2.7
mh_dps                          188.1
oh_dps                          178.9
mh_crit                         31.09
oh_crit                         31.09
mh_hit                          11.25
oh_hit                          11.25
mh_expertise_rating             140
oh_expertise_rating             140
ap                              4916
melee_haste                     11.89
armor_penetration               7.63
str                             141
agi                             914
int                             548
spi                             161
spellpower                      1475
spell_crit                      22.69
spell_hit                       14.07
spell_haste                     9.15
max_mana                        12336
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        45609
trinket2                        46038

totem                           42608

set_bonus1                      worldbreaker_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41398

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   4/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

EnhSim version 1.8.0

................................................................................


MH:
miss                685196         9.75%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1684936        23.99%
hit                 1361504        19.38%
crit                3292708        46.88%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.23%
procs/swings        14.89%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1238974        50.15%
crit                1231500        49.85%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 639170         50.20%
crit                633994         49.80%

OH:
miss                684926         9.75%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1685084        23.99%
hit                 1355394        19.30%
crit                3298940        46.96%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 5666969        63.21%
crit                3298805        36.79%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 636377         49.98%
crit                636787         50.02%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1078924        63.12%
crit                630465         36.88%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 676716         50.01%
crit                676476         49.99%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 854823         63.22%
crit                497351         36.78%

Chain Lightning:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 597465         63.31%
crit                346224         36.69%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1376834        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               348752         6.51%
glancing            1284044        23.99%
hit                 3107154        58.04%
crit                613430         11.46%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 57.14

flurry uptime                  94.94%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   80.66%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              41.88%
oh enchant uptime              37.40%
trinket1 uptime                20.51%
trinket2 uptime                20.36%
totem uptime                   75.18%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2045.64   27.73%    78.05
windfury            869.43    11.78%    6.86
flametongue         549.99    7.45%     49.81
stormstrike         484.47    6.57%     7.07      0.00      0.00%
lava lash           375.53    5.09%     7.52      20.71     7.07%
magma totem         563.19    7.63%     2.84      52.82     18.02%
earth shock         675.83    9.16%     9.50      61.37     20.94%
lightning bolt      761.66    10.32%    7.51      55.04     18.78%
chain lightning     505.10    6.85%     5.24      99.87     34.07%
lightning shield    245.95    3.33%     0.93      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       301.27    4.08%     0.40      3.31      1.13%

DPS                 7378.06
MPS                 293.11
MP2min              35173.42
MRPS                0.00
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 3000.00h
elapsed real time: 31.38s
simulation speed: 344212x


#9 crazyhammer

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:25 PM

What RAWR version did you use to generate the above RAWR sheet, I can't open it in the latest version of RAWR 2.2.9 or the older 2.2.7, or even 2.2.6 RAWR errors out error message " there was an error attempting to open this character, most likely it was saved in a previous beta of Rawr and isn't upgradable to the new format". I want to look at your Rawr file as when I input all the above items above my numbers are not matching yours. Enhsim config is way off. Not sure why.

#10 skaai

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 11:28 PM

I've searched through here and other forums that are up to snuff on enhance dps figures and almost everywhere I've looked has had AP>Haste as far as gemming. I don't know why haste is so put down when all of my tests, in game and in sims, have put haste>AP. My recommendation is to gem haste as much as possible.

EnhSim version 1.7.0

................................................................................

MH:
miss                233574         8.99%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            622667         23.97%
hit                 509154         19.60%
crit                1232439        47.44%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.07%
procs/swings        13.90%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 415600         49.62%
crit                421930         50.38%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 205690         49.59%
crit                209132         50.41%

OH:
miss                232932         8.97%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            623099         23.99%
hit                 507659         19.54%
crit                1234144        47.51%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1960590        59.90%
crit                1312755        40.10%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 205505         49.54%
crit                209317         50.46%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 309744         59.89%
crit                207451         40.11%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 243202         49.27%
crit                250419         50.73%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 391738         59.85%
crit                262819         40.15%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 462370         100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               115342         6.49%
glancing            427576         24.08%
hit                 1028958        57.94%
crit                204124         11.49%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 61.97

flurry uptime                  94.88%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   79.82%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              42.68%
oh enchant uptime              38.66%
trinket1 uptime                20.00%
trinket2 uptime                18.17%
totem uptime                   69.14%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 35.64     15.09%
replenishment       38.33     16.23%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.16      3.88%
shamanistic rage    53.14     22.50%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         99.88     42.29%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2151.51   28.62%    86.59
windfury            836.76    11.13%    6.98
flametongue         651.49    8.67%     54.56
stormstrike         507.51    6.75%     6.91      38.09     15.22%
lava lash           472.84    6.29%     8.23      22.66     9.05%
magma totem         550.62    7.32%     2.72      50.64     20.23%
earth shock         641.06    8.53%     8.62      55.70     22.25%
lightning bolt      1166.86   15.52%    10.91     79.93     31.93%
lightning shield    221.26    2.94%     0.86      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       317.80    4.23%     0.40      3.31      1.32%

DPS                 7517.72
MPS                 250.34
MP2min              30040.28
MRPS                281.40
Out of mana time    0.35%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 2.34s
simulation speed: 1537147x

EnhSim version 1.7.0

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 1.90364% (49.9363 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise skipped.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.
Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.
Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.
Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.
Calculation 12/14: Mana calculated.
Calculation 13/14: Spirit calculated.
Calculation 14/14: Mp5 calculated.


EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      7519.02
ap                        1.00      0.68      7654.21        135.18
crit rating               1.42      0.96      7547.80        28.78
hit rating                1.44      0.97      7548.15        29.13
expertise rating          0.00      0.00      0.00           -7519.02
haste rating              1.35      0.91      7546.32        27.30
armor penetration rating  1.35      0.91      7546.31        27.29
spellpower                0.95      0.65      7615.77        96.75
mh dps                    5.43      3.67      7546.53        27.51
oh dps                    1.88      1.27      7528.56        9.53
strength                  1.10      
agility                   1.55      
intelligence              1.32      
spirit                    -0.01     -0.01     7517.60        -1.43
mana                      -0.01     -0.00     7517.92        -1.10
mp5                       -0.09     -0.06     7517.86        -1.16

( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1.00, CritRating=1.42, HitRating=1.44, HasteRating=1.35, ExpertiseRating=0.00, ArmorPenetration=1.35, SpellDamage=0.95, MainHandDps=5.43, OffHandDps=1.88, Strength=1.10, Agility=1.55, Intellect=1.32, Spirit=-0.01, Mana=-0.01, Mp5=-0.09 )
http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=1.10&mh=1.35&dps=5.43&mp5=-0.09&mcr=1.42&odps=1.88&spd=0.95&Agi=1.55&mhit=1.44&Int=1.32&Spi=-0.01&map=1.00&arp=1.35&Exp=0.00

elapsed simulation time: 13000.00h
elapsed real time: 25.66s
simulation speed: 1823708x


#11 Sylvand

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:10 AM

I've searched through here and other forums that are up to snuff on enhance dps figures and almost everywhere I've looked has had AP>Haste as far as gemming. I don't know why haste is so put down when all of my tests, in game and in sims, have put haste>AP. My recommendation is to gem haste as much as possible.
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haste rating              1.35

First, your citation does not support your recommendation. Second, when haste is "put down" it's primarily due to its volatile nature and its (supposed) dependence on simulation assumptions which often do not hold in practice.

In any event, this may not be the proper thread for this discussion. If you have searched you should be aware that the theorycrafting tools used by this community are Rawr and EnhSim, so if you have a discrepancy with one of those there are dedicated threads for each that you can use to provide constructive feedback.

#12 donor

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:23 AM

Mana simulation: Do not simulate mana. You should never be running OOM


Yet the spec you linked has Shamanistic Focus. Wouldn't that point be better used in Ancestral Knowledge or Reverberation?

#13 Vespasian

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 05:20 AM

Updated

To respond to a few posts:

With regards to run speed enchant, I would prefer to exclude it from our list for the simple reason that its value is not equal across all encounters, where as Icewalker/Assault are. I will however make a note on that enchant in the table directing them to the TTT, so that people can at least make an informed choice.

Thank you, Rouncer, for pointing this out. Icewalker is listed as the new BiS enchant.

With regards to generating a 10man list, I can certainly see the value in the project for many people, however I would not be willing to devote the time to this. If someone is willing to do so, PM me and perhaps we can find a way of reporting the findings on this thread.

Hozzer, thanks for this. Your findings have been included in the latest post. I tweaked it somewhat to prioritise LL, which is more in line with general play style while still yeilding identical dps results.

Crazyhammer, I am using the latest version of Rawr 2.2.9. No one else has reported this issue. Are you sure you arent doing something wrong?

Skaii, these are interesting results but we need to see a paperdoll sheet and config for your results. Please post them when you get a chance.

Donor, putting 1 extra point in AK results in only 3-5 more dps, which is inside the standard deviation for sim results. Furthermore, we can rightly assume that 45% cheaper shocks are typically going to be more valuable than 3-5 more DPS.

#14 Haze

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 05:36 AM

I was simming for higher DPS with Shoulders of Misfortune and Conq Gloves instead of the setup you brought up. I'll be uploading the logs here as soon as i get home.

But that's for my actual gear, and it doesn't have neither the neck, or the algalon trinkets and ring.

#15 Aeolian

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 01:51 AM

OK, I did some testing with AP and Haste versions of what I originally thought was BiS for us. The AP version is at or just below what is listed above as the current best DPS set. The Haste version is ~22 DPS above that. Also, it should be noted, that adding the Draenei racial on top of the Haste and AP sets adds another ~40 DPS. Here are the files. Also, my spec is a little bit different here, I removed the point in Shamanistic Focus because I do not have mana problems, ever, and put it into Ancestral Knowledge.

EnhSim Config File
### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         10
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              SW
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              SS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              MT
rotation_priority7              LS
rotation_priority8              LL
rotation_priority9              MW3_CL
rotation_priority10             MW4_LB

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          687/687
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.7
oh_speed                        2.7
mh_dps                          188.1
oh_dps                          178.9
mh_crit                         30.86
oh_crit                         30.86
mh_hit                          11.50
oh_hit                          11.50
mh_expertise_rating             142
oh_expertise_rating             142
ap                              4595
melee_haste                     19.23
armor_penetration               5.12
str                             141
agi                             889
int                             546
spi                             161
spellpower                      1379
spell_crit                      22.75
spell_hit                       14.37
spell_haste                     14.79
max_mana                        12306
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        45522
trinket2                        45609

totem                           42607

set_bonus1                      worldbreaker_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41285

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               0/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

EnhSim Output
EnhSim version 1.8.0

................................................................................

MH:
miss                238723         9.49%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            603507         24.00%
hit                 533041         21.20%
crit                1139135        45.30%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.45%
procs/swings        14.19%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 430236         51.72%
crit                401550         48.28%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 216064         51.81%
crit                200988         48.19%

OH:
miss                239169         9.51%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            603042         23.98%
hit                 532325         21.17%
crit                1139870        45.33%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 2006850        63.19%
crit                1169063        36.81%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 216306         51.87%
crit                200746         48.13%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 325944         63.09%
crit                190699         36.91%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 250039         51.70%
crit                233585         48.30%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 305128         63.13%
crit                178204         36.87%

Chain Lightning:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 180224         63.21%
crit                104883         36.79%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 468179         100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               116366         6.51%
glancing            427720         23.93%
hit                 1037718        58.06%
crit                205410         11.49%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 60.32

flurry uptime                  93.99%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   79.47%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              42.20%
oh enchant uptime              38.03%
trinket1 uptime                17.93%
trinket2 uptime                20.59%
totem uptime                   80.60%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2130.67   28.76%    83.81
windfury            852.11    11.5%     6.93
flametongue         580.61    7.84%     52.93
stormstrike         460.51    6.22%     6.95      0.00      0.00%
lava lash           393.96    5.32%     8.06      22.21     6.63%
magma totem         564.98    7.63%     2.87      53.33     15.91%
earth shock         609.54    8.23%     8.61      106.74    31.85%
lightning bolt      812.16    10.96%    8.06      59.02     17.61%
chain lightning     455.77    6.15%     4.75      90.52     27.01%
lightning shield    249.56    3.37%     0.87      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       299.64    4.04%     0.40      3.31      0.99%

DPS                 7409.51
MPS                 335.12
MP2min              40214.33
MRPS                0.00
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 2.72s
simulation speed: 1322556x

Here is the Rawr XML File
Download bis haste xml for free at Uploading.com

Quick notes on the set, a lot of it is the same. However, I am using Shoulders of Misfortune over T8 and the T8 Gloves over the pair you have listed above. I am also using the Chaotic Skyflare Diamond instead of the Relentless Earthsiege Diamond. Also, Godbane Signet over Band of Lights and Blood of the Old God over Dark Matter. In a true AP set, I could see trying to fit Dark Matter into it and I plan on spending some time on it. The only reason I even bother testing both sets is due to the fact not everyone likes to gem for Haste regardless of its current EP value because it fluctuates so much.

#16 dedmonwakeen

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 03:57 AM

Since we're talking about maximum theoretical DPS, I'll share this slightly improbable ability priority. I started tinkering with this while thinking about MW procs being our most valuable commodity. The easiest way to gain more, is to spend more, thus spending less time with 5 unspent stacks of MW. I've changed nothing from the config provided in the first post but the ability priority and attained 7377-7379 DPS.

Note: In practice using MW3 on CL instead of waiting for MW4-5 costs a prohibitive amount of mana and is difficult to time effectively.
Ability priority order
1) SW
2) MWx5_LB
3) SS
4) ES
5) MT
6) LS
7) MW3_CL
8) MW4_LB
9) LL


Using the gear profile in SimulationCraft I come out about 80dps shy of the values reported there.

Two questions:

(1) Can you share any more detailed output data beyond DPS?
(2) I've found that MW3 or MW4 is always a dps-loss for me, primarily because SimulationCraft will always reset the swing timers when inserting non-instant casts into the priority. What does EnhSim do with the swing timers in these cases?

#17 Vespasian

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 05:27 AM

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Suggested specs and ability priority orders have got me thinking about how useful these results are in a practical sense. I am keen to ensure that this list holds relevance to raiders and not just to the Theorycrafting community who enjoy crunching numbers. Therefore, there are 2 changes I would like to make the Static Variables section

Enh Totems and Imp WF Talents compulsory
Firstly, I think it would be best for us to set Enhancing Totems and Improved Windfury Totem as compulsory. It would be fair to assume that the Enh shaman alone would be providing these buffs to the raid (certainly the case in Enh Totems and often the case with Imp WF if there are no Frost DKs present). In the interests of making this page as practical as possible in its application, I will set these 5 talent points as a minimum requirement. I do not foresee that this will change with the onset of 3.2.

Mana simulation
It is becoming evident to me that not simulating mana will render our results useless. The specs and ability priority orders that we are using (0 mana talents and MW3_CL, MW4_LB in the priority list) result in 22% OOM time in 3.1 and 8% OOM time in 3.2.

We are then placed in the somewhat difficult position of having a simulation tool that does not entirely meet our needs. Enhsim version 1.8 uses the 3.2 Shamanistic Rage coeffecient/cooldown, which presumably would skew results. At the same time, the latest version of Enhsim 1.7 would sim our mana accurately but it is missing it is missing both the Furious Totem and Comet’s Trail, 2 very important items in our 3.1 BiS list.

I wanted to see just how insufficient 1.7 was for our purposes, so I went back and did some analysis of the effect of mana talents before and after 3.2 to isolate the effect of the SR change on our OOM time. I used the following config for this, which is the current BiS config (thanks Aeolian):

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         10
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              SW
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              SS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              MT
rotation_priority7              LS
rotation_priority8              LL
rotation_priority9              MW3_CL
rotation_priority10             MW4_LB

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          687/687
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.7
oh_speed                        2.7
mh_dps                          188.1
oh_dps                          178.9
mh_crit                         30.86
oh_crit                         30.86
mh_hit                          11.50
oh_hit                          11.50
mh_expertise_rating             142
oh_expertise_rating             142
ap                              4595
melee_haste                     19.23
armor_penetration               5.12
str                             141
agi                             889
int                             546
spi                             161
spellpower                      1379
spell_crit                      22.75
spell_hit                       14.37
spell_haste                     14.79
max_mana                        12306
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        45522
trinket2                        45609

totem                           42608

set_bonus1                      worldbreaker_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41285

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               0/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

In the ability priority order we are currently using (MW3_CL, MW4_LB) we experience roughly 22% OOM time in 3.1. Talents reduce this OOM time in the following way:

OOM time with:
1/1 Shamanistic Focus (SF): 16%
1/1 SF + 1/2 Improved Stormstrike (Imp SS): 8%
1/1 SF + 2/2 Imp SS: 0.85%

Obviously the increase in mana efficiency is the best possible way that these talent points could have been spent (max DPS increase per talent point).

Now to contrast this with 3.2 results. In the ability priority order we are currently using (MW3_CL, MW4_LB) we experience roughly 8% OOM time in 3.2. Talents reduce this OOM time in the following way:

OOM time with:
1/1 Shamanistic Focus (SF): 3%
1/1 SF + 1/2 Improved Stormstrike (Imp SS): 0.82%
1/1 SF + 2/2 Imp SS: 0.21% (DPS 7386)

I noted the minimal increase in mana efficiency provided by the extra point in Imp SS, so I went and checked to see if that extra point could be better used elsewhere:

OOM time and DPS with:
1/1 SF + 2/2 Imp SS: 0.21% OOM and 7386 DPS
1/1 SF + 1/2 Imp SS + 3/5 Ancestral Knowledge: 0.8% OOM and 7363 DPS
1/1 SF + 1/2 Imp SS + 1/5 Reverb: 0.83% OOM and 7376 DPS

The extra point in Imp SS yields the best possible DPS result.

Essentially this exercise demonstrates that under this set up, simulating mana using the Enhsim 1.7 yields the same results that it does in 1.8- OOM time sits at roughly 0.20-0.80% and the best possible DPS set up is reliant upon having the three mana talents.

I am therefore going to make mana simulation a compulsory aspect of this exercise since I do not believe the SR change will have a significant impact on the accuracy of current results.

Anyone offering a new a different set-up, particularly a new ability priority order, must do a sanity check of their results using the Enhsim 1.7 to assess their total OOM time. If the OOM time is significantly higher than the OOM time reported in Enhsim 1.8, it is likely that this set-up is impractical and will be rejected. I will do this sanity check on any new submissions as well.

All of this will be a non-issue with the release of 3.2 however, as the game will be brought into alignment with the current conditions simulated by Enhsim 1.8.

Edit: I have decided to clearly post the 3.1 OOM % for any setup provided.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 06:59 AM

Demonwakeen's post alerted us to a bug with Enhsim that was identified by Sylvand. Enhsim was not reseting the swing timer after casting non-instant casts. Sylvand ran tests with a more accurate set up and identified that a MW3_CL, MW4_LB was netting a DPS decrease: http://elitistjerks....92/#post1317405

I have corrected the ability priority order and ideal spec in line with this. The config and log have been updated.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 11:15 AM

Demonwakeen's post alerted us to a bug with Enhsim that was identified by Sylvand. Enhsim was not reseting the swing timer after casting non-instant casts. Sylvand ran tests with a more accurate set up and identified that a MW3_CL, MW4_LB was netting a DPS decrease: http://elitistjerks....92/#post1317405

I have corrected the ability priority order and ideal spec in line with this. The config and log have been updated.


You're saying that Enhsim not resetting the swing timer with less than 5 stacks of MW was a bug? Is this a recent change? My understanding was that observation in game had shown that as long as you had at least 1 stack of MW your swing timer wasn't reset when using abilities that are hastened by MW. To my knowledge Enhsim was correctly emulating this behavior. Am I understanding this correctly?

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 11:54 AM

Demonwakeen's post alerted us to a bug with Enhsim that was identified by Sylvand. Enhsim was not reseting the swing timer after casting non-instant casts. Sylvand ran tests with a more accurate set up and identified that a MW3_CL, MW4_LB was netting a DPS decrease: http://elitistjerks....92/#post1317405

I have corrected the ability priority order and ideal spec in line with this. The config and log have been updated.


Just to be clear: I was not claiming that SimulationCraft was "right" in this instance...... I was merely stating that it was "different".

I consider tools like EnhSim and Rawr.Mage to be gospel until proven otherwise......




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