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#41 Torael_7

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:31 PM

Our three main tanks get priority on T3, then the rogues get a go at it on roughly the same basis as the secondary tanks. DPS warriors got co-priority with the rogues, more or less, on T2.5 in AQ40, so T3 is hands off for them until afterwards.

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:34 PM

The only fights I can think of where Fire mages vastly rape our rogues are Thaddius and Loatheb. Those encounters also are incredibly stacked towards Fire mage victory however.

that be the same for us for the most part. Loatheb last night was something like mage, mage, rogue rogue, warrior, rogue mage etc
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:39 PM

Let's just say that our BWL warrior loot is extremely poor. During the probably 8 months of farming the instance, we have only geared up 2 full T2 warriors. So naturally in order for us to progress end game wise, we need to gear up a couple of selected tanks first.

Not to derail too much, but... what loot system are you using where (presumably) rogues have been seeing fat days in BWL/AQ40 and warriors are running around in T1 gear and the warriors won't be destroying rogues for T3 purchases until equilibrium is established?

Or are you extending this to "warriors get complete sets, period"?

Not that I have anything meaningful to contribute, simply curious about the scale and details of your question.
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#44 LadyVex

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:40 PM

If you're going to give priority to an class on cloth drops I'd quite obviously go priest; at least warlocks and mages get doomcaller and enigma :p

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:41 PM

Four warriors in 4/9 dreadnaught is when I'd stop defaulting pieces to warriors, beyond that its pretty much overkill even for four horsemen (I guess this depends on the strat you use) and it will make your life easier in many other fights as well. I think after that point your raid will gain more from rogues in BS than more tanks in DN.

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:42 PM

Let's just say that our BWL warrior loot is extremely poor. During the probably 8 months of farming the instance, we have only geared up 2 full T2 warriors. So naturally in order for us to progress end game wise, we need to gear up a couple of selected tanks first.

Not to derail too much, but... what loot system are you using where (presumably) rogues have been seeing fat days in BWL/AQ40 and warriors are running around in T1 gear and the warriors won't be destroying rogues for T3 purchases until equilibrium is established?

Or are you extending this to "warriors get complete sets, period"?

Not that I have anything meaningful to contribute, simply curious about the scale and details of your question.

That's a good question now that I think about it.

If Wrath drops are bad how are rogues getting the pieces? Do your warriors buy alot of off-spec gear or something? Or are bloodfang drops really bad?

Although deathdealer are guaranteed drops so i'd imagine they have to be getting some?

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 09:40 PM

did gioa realy get 2.5k for the account? ;c

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 09:53 PM

$3,200 for Rogue/Warrior alt, $800 for gold

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Jesus christ. How much did Jedi accounts go for when they were first being sold?



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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:00 PM

did gioa realy get 2.5k for the account? ;c

$3,200 for Rogue/Warrior alt, $800 for gold

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i didn't think any acct still went for that much anymore. I guess i was wrong. hell, a warrior account on my server with both legendaries, full wrath, exhalted ab/av, 1000's of gold only went for like 1000$.

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#50 Emeraude

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:05 PM

did gioa realy get 2.5k for the account? ;c

$3,200 for Rogue/Warrior alt, $800 for gold

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i didn't think any acct still went for that much anymore. I guess i was wrong. hell, a warrior account on my server with both legendaries, full wrath, exhalted ab/av, 1000's of gold only went for like 1000$.

Tier 3 is in demand heh.

The guy who bought the account sold a rank 14 Orc Warrior in 4/9 DN or something like that.
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#51 Mist

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:11 PM

Where are people buying/selling accounts of this value these days? Markeedragon?

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:12 PM

Our three main tanks get priority on T3, then the rogues get a go at it on roughly the same basis as the secondary tanks. DPS warriors got co-priority with the rogues, more or less, on T2.5 in AQ40, so T3 is hands off for them until afterwards.

I think...

Pretty much dead on, I hear they wanna give another war 4/9 before rogues get thrown back in the loop.
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#53 Bibdy

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:19 PM

Shows how much loyalty those guys had to the guild, huh?
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#54 probiscus

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:25 PM

People have more money than brains I guess.

Also, we can probably thank server transfers for the explosion in prices.

#55 Kalman

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:58 PM

I don't think we had any official priority, rogues were just smart enough to let the first few of a given piece go to the tanks.
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 11:02 PM

I keep reading about 4/9dn being nice, but overrated. We had no super special priority, I will say though, I'm glad our rogues have some gear too. Loatheb with 4/9bs is <3. Last week we had one of our 4/9+ rogues keylogged and we wiped to Loatheb at 1% (he was in Bloodfang :(). A good mixture of both certainly helps, MT gear seems most important; Broken Reels are a makeshift save for 4h that doesn't cost a giant wad of your armors. Obviously not a replacement to the set bonus (and works well along side).

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 11:04 PM

we give them to apps!

well, bracers at least. we've gotten so many rogue/warrior bracers that we gave the pair that dropped last night to a warrior app since everyone had them already. i have two of the tier 3 hybrid shoulder pieces in my bank, too. maybe i'll craft them for different enchants! :(

#58 Kalman

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 11:05 PM

Elendril: I'm still an app, and I'm wearing Bonescythe shoulders now. 10 of them have dropped, total.

Now, boots...
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#59 snurre

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 11:11 PM

We've gotten so few drops, only one of our warrs have two pieces. :(

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 11:13 PM

No specific priority, but the warriors generally had higher dkp to start and the rogues understand 4hm and generally havn't fought for pieces. We've got one rogue in 2/9 I think and the rest has gone to warriors. 1 at 5/9, 1 at 4/9, 1 at 3/9, and I think 1 or 2 pieces on 2 others. By the reverse- most rogues are getting decked out in 2.5 while only one or two warriors are nibbling on that (mostly the dps warriors).

As for the caster pieces, our system is favoring the priests for them pretty heavily since most priests havn't seen more than one or two upgrades since BWL and the caster dps is pretty much all decked in 3 to 5 pieces of 2.5. The caster dps has been spending thier points pretty heavily over the last few months, while most healers have just been chilling out ho-hum and taking what upgrades there are (and there aren't many that ahve dropped- although most of us have fankriss robes lol) for super cheap in AQ40. Same deal with the druids/paladins and hunters. It's pretty much a healer feast after famine. ^.^

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